You're making a mistaken assumption here. At the time Barry was born, presumably his mother was married to his father and was planning to go wherever he was going. This certainly wouldn't have made him a permanent resident living in Hawaii, plus we know they didn't live in Hawaii after he was born — they lived in the state of Washington. Regardless, why fool with naturalization when you don't know where you're going to be living or if you're going to be living in the United States??
So Stanely drops Barry in Kenya and sends a wire to grandma, who goes to the local registrar and, after committing perjury, gets a US birth certificate for her grandson. She then sends it to her daughter Kenya by whatever expensive means were available at the time. Great. Now what?
Why do you go on about 'expensive means.' Somehow SAD was able to afford or pay for college in Seattle as a single mother and raise her child there. What's a little overseas postage going to matter??
How does that help little Barry? He's still in Kenya and has no papers that would get him admitted to the US. A birth certificate doesn't help. He needs a passport or visa. He can't use the birth certificate for that, either, because a child born in the USA needs to apply for his passport before leaving the country, not afterward.
How does an unborn baby or newborn apply for a passport?? This point makes no sense.
Attempting to use it for this purpose at the US consolate in Kenya would have triggered an investigation and likely uncovered granny's fraud.
For a newborn baby?? Not following this logic at all.
Now compare that to the legal way. Stanley drops litttle barry. She takes her passport and his birth certificate to the US consolate, and obtains a Declaration of Birth of a Child to a US Citizen Abroad. With that document she can get him a non-quota immigrant visa and enter the US without any trouble.
I don't see much evidence that SAD did things the legal way. There's no evidence of her alleged marriage to Barak Sr. except after the fact in a divorce decree. No marriage license or marriage announcement has even been presented. The permanent address of Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama listed in the birth announcements was not an address where Barak Sr. was ever known to have resided. SAD claimed she had a marital relationship with Barak Sr. for two years in the divorce decree, but there's no evidence to support this claim. Why are we to believe she used a 'legal way' to register her baby as born abroad??
Seems to me the legal way would have involved much less hassle and stress.
Not at all. Granny claims to witness an unattended birth and gives a few details to the health department. The newly formed state of Hawaii is glad to claim as many citizens as possible. Why would either quibble over minor details??
So help me out, birthers. What am I missing?
I can't speak for birthers, but since you appear to be a faither, you are missing quite a bit.
If she brought him back to Hawaii with her, as we know she did, and he was born in Kenya, then while his naturalization papers were being processed, he'd be a permanent resident.
plus we know they didn't live in Hawaii after he was born — they lived in the state of Washington.
Okay, fine. Then she could have filed for his naturalization papers while living in Seattle, and he'd be a permanent resident while living with her there. I don't see why you're so hung up on Hawaii.
Regardless, why fool with naturalization when you don't know where you're going to be living or if you're going to be living in the United States??
Uh...so he could get the benefits of US citizenship? If there was no reason to bother with naturalization, there would be no reason to bother with a fraudulant birth registration.
How does an unborn baby or newborn apply for a passport??
Simple. His mom or Dad fills it the application, presents a copy of his birth certificate or consular birth declaration, and attaches a couple passport photos of the child.
That's all it took to get my daughter a passport when she was a month old.
This point makes no sense.
What makes no sense? That babies needed documentation to enter the US?
For a newborn baby?? Not following this logic at all.
The logic is very simple. Even newborn babies need documentation to enter the US. In the 1960's, they were typically listed on their parents' faimly passport.
Now if the baby is born in the US, then the mom or dad needs to apply for a family passport, with the child's name, before leaving the country.
So suppose little Barry was born in Kenya, and grandma fraudulantly registers his birth in Hawaii. SAD now has a problem. How is she going to get little Barry documentation?If he really was born in Hawaii, then she would have been required to get him on her passport before they left the country. The fact that they are overseas now, and he has a US birth certificate, but he's not on her passport already, would immediately raise serious suspicions of fraud.
I don't see much evidence that SAD did things the legal way.
Well, there isn't any evidence she did anything illegally, either. But I suppose in your fantasy world, people are guilty until proven innocent.
There's no evidence of her alleged marriage to Barak Sr. except after the fact in a divorce decree.
That's pretty strong evidence! Why in the world would someone pretend to get be married and then go through the expense and hastlle of getting a divorce? That makes no sense!
No marriage license or marriage announcement has even been presented.
Where you would expect it to be presented, to whom, and for what reason?
The permanent address of Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama listed in the birth announcements was not an address where Barak Sr. was ever known to have resided.
That's a birther myth and is simply not true.
SAD claimed she had a marital relationship with Barak Sr. for two years in the divorce decree, but there's no evidence to support this claim.
What possible motive would she have to claim it if it weren't true?
Why are we to believe she used a 'legal way' to register her baby as born abroad??
Given that there's absolutely no evidence she ever did anything illegally, and that there was nothing to gain from a fraudulant birth registration, yes.
Not at all. Granny claims to witness an unattended birth and gives a few details to the health department.
Okay, suppose Barry was born in Kenya, as you allege, and granny risks her freedom and committs perjury, as you allege, even though there was no rational reason to do i).
Now what? Little Barry's still in Kenya without any papers, and a US birth certificate isn't going to get him any. What good does the fraudulant birth registriation accomplish?
The newly formed state of Hawaii is glad to claim as many citizens as possible.
Nonsense. Birth registrations aren't used to count the population. That's what the census is for.> Why would either quibble over minor details??
Because that's what bureaucrats do.