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To: edge919
I've seen later reports that mention they were married in 1967, but the earliest report was that they were married in 1965. I've seen nothing to indicate that they remained solely in Hawaii between 1964 and 1967. Plus, there's no evidence to show where Lolo married SAD. Another one of the glaring holes in the Obama myth.

There are a lot of glaring holes.

It explains why he was listed as Barry Soetoro. There are often strict laws about using false last names without official name changes such as would be provided through adoption.

Do you know that there were such laws in Indonesia? Or are you speculating?

He didn't have to lie about Obama being born in Hawaii ... he just didn't know any better because he went by what his less-than-honest wife told him.

Again, speculation. You can twist the story six ways from Sunday to fit what you want to believe, but the fact of the matter is that there is no evidence of an adoption and no evidence of Indonesian citizenship except that one sheet. And that one sheet contradicts the truth that you would have us believe in at least one area. Why assume any of it's true?

There's a lack of proof about almost everything in Obama's childhood. This was one document he couldn't make disappear.

And nothing backs it up.

164 posted on 07/20/2010 2:46:46 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Do you know that there were such laws in Indonesia? Or are you speculating?

I don't know Indonesia's laws on fraud regarding legal names, but I do know that adopted children have to be of the same religion as the father ... which explains why Barry Soetoro would be listed with his adoptive father's religion. Feel free to show that it's legal to go by a step-parent's surname in Indonesia without legally changing your name. Such would inconistent with the nature of some of their other laws, such as when they forced Chinese-Indonesians to change their names from Chinese names to Indonesian names.

You can twist the story six ways from Sunday to fit what you want to believe, but the fact of the matter is that there is no evidence of an adoption and no evidence of Indonesian citizenship except that one sheet

The only person twisting anything is you by claiming Lolo had to have lied about several things, but was inexplicably completely honest about a detail that would stand out like a sore thumb. And I'm not going by a belief, but simply seeking explanations for a person whose life is barely documented and inconsistently reported by the media, friends and family. Arbitrarily choosing one of his nativity stories as the gospel truth is the part that is a matter of twisting, belief and blind faith. What you offer is no more than speculation when we shouldn't have to speculate about anything. Obama should simply provide full disclosure. Don't carry water for a fraud.

And nothing backs it up.

The bigger problem is that nothing disputes it.

167 posted on 07/20/2010 10:31:53 PM PDT by edge919
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