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Classic failure of intelligence. It will be interesting to see who ends up the winning bidder.
1 posted on 06/27/2010 7:36:37 PM PDT by Saije
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As Custer said, “Where in the hell did all them Indians come from?”

Bad intel, like elections, can have devastating consequences.

2 posted on 06/27/2010 7:41:24 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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4 posted on 06/27/2010 7:49:00 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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If he had held onto that 54 dollars for a couple more years, and then invested in the auto companies that were to become General Motors , he would be screwed out of all of it now .
5 posted on 06/27/2010 7:49:45 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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The History Channel many years ago had an Oli Stone tin-foil hat episode where Grant was jealous of Custer so he gave his intel to the Indians and had him whacked..


6 posted on 06/27/2010 7:53:45 PM PDT by max americana
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I’ve been reading and learning more about this battle and the outcome. There’s a large and popular mythology that surrounds these events - much of which was created by Custer’s wife after his death.

Some items for starters:

1. Custer didn’t surprise the Indians. Their picket riders ran into Custer and discovered the size of Custer’s forces. This forced Custer’s hand as he was weighing the prudence of attacking what his Crow scouts were telling him was a large group of Indians.

2. Custer did know that there was a very large number of Indians in the area. His scouts and trackers were telling him this, but he refused to accept their interpretation of the tracks.

3. In the end, what did the 7th in was a failure of leadership. Custer failed to maintain unit cohesion, failed to deal with insubordinate officers under his command and he attacked without having a clear plan communicated to all units.

I personally can’t understand why someone wpuld cough up millions for this artifact.


8 posted on 06/27/2010 7:54:28 PM PDT by NVDave
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Two good recent books on Custer and the battle - A Terrible Glory by James Donovan, and The Last Stand by Nathaniel Philbrick.


10 posted on 06/27/2010 8:01:54 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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The land had been ceded to the tribes in perpetuity but, following the discovery of gold there, the US insisted the Indians move to a reservation.


11 posted on 06/27/2010 8:04:36 PM PDT by hellbender
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the Black Hills region in what is now Montana

The Black Hills are in South Dakota. The battle was in MT.

12 posted on 06/27/2010 8:06:02 PM PDT by hellbender
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It is my understanding the flag was recaptured by elements of the 4th Cavalry...is this the same flag for sale?


15 posted on 06/27/2010 8:27:59 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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Interesting. Thanks to all posters. BTTT.


16 posted on 06/27/2010 8:33:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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I’ve read so much about that battle and I still can’t figure out what Custer’s plan was. I know he thought the indians were aware he was in the neighborhood, which is why he attacked in the middle of the day, but what did he figure Reno was going to accomplish with his little attack. And what was the point in sending Benteen off on a wild goose chase?


17 posted on 06/27/2010 8:33:45 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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Seems the flag is government property and belongs in a military museum.

Read the article after the 4th Cavalry post..no need to respond.


18 posted on 06/27/2010 8:37:14 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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♬♪ "Please, Mr. Custer" ♩♫


19 posted on 06/27/2010 8:43:59 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
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I enjoyed the book and the movie ‘We Were Soldiers’. Especially when Sgt. Maj. Plumley (Sam Elliot) said “Custer was a wussie. You ain’t.” to Lt. Col. Moore (Mel Gibson). In a replay of that our Congress is the ‘wussies’ now, specifically the RINO’s and anyone against this country.

The Little Big Horn was a classic failure of intelligence. Others would include the Israeli 6 Oct 1973 Yom Kippor surprise attack (for Egypt and Syria) the Gorelick Wall precipitating 9/11 (for America).

The 7th Cavalry fought well in the Pusan Perimeter in Korea as well as at LZ XRAY in Viet Nam. This article was interesting to say the least. I too thought the flag was the property of the US Government (as another comment said), the US Army in particular, and as such should be returned to them. If sold the flag and the monies received for it should be confiscated by the Government. (I would not condone this action in many circumstances but this one for sure) Free enterprise, for me, has no place here. As far as I am concerned the Detroit Institute is just SOOL!


21 posted on 06/27/2010 8:57:23 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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That flag should be in the Smithsonian or at West Point Academy. Hopefully the winning bidder will donate it to an appropriate museum.


22 posted on 06/27/2010 9:02:46 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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The 7th Cavalry surprised the Indians, led by Sitting Bull, in their village only to realise they had considerably underestimated the enemy's strength.

Yeah, the Sioux were shocked. Shocked I tell you. LOL

26 posted on 06/27/2010 9:41:01 PM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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Roster 7th U.S. Cavalry Regiment’s Little Big Horn Operations “personnel in combat” 25-26 June 1876

http://www.us7thcavalry.com/roster_lbh.htm


27 posted on 06/27/2010 9:45:31 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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These days it may well be bought by the Lakotas or Cheyennes and displayed in a casino.


29 posted on 06/27/2010 10:01:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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"It's not a piece of decoration. It's a sacred relic, people died for this flag" said David Redden, a Sotheby's vice chairman.

He said, as he opened the bidding...

36 posted on 06/28/2010 3:13:10 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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The Brits better get out a map, while the Little Bighorn battlefield is in Montana the sacred Lakota Black Hills are in South Dakota.


37 posted on 06/28/2010 5:59:06 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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