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How Soccer is Ruining America: A Jeremiad (In honor of the World Cup)
First Things ^ | 3/5/2009 | Stephen H. Webb

Posted on 06/11/2010 5:23:41 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Dr. Sivana
Raw numbers won't do it. More people speak Chinese than English, but Chinese is (not yet) the most important language in the world.

How can "raw numbers [not] do it," when the premise of your argument is numbers? In terms of money, the NFL is probably ten times more popular than the World Cup in the U.S.

That's completely fine, but you can't turn around and claim "them's just numbers" when you are using them.

141 posted on 06/11/2010 8:02:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: andy58-in-nh

Its a fantastic sport and will be in danger of being wussified as well if we continue to allow liberal sissies to influence it.


142 posted on 06/11/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: Grunthor

I’m actually getting ready to go to the bar and watch the Cubs play the White Sox. That should be boring, because both teams suck.


143 posted on 06/11/2010 8:04:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy (Go Sox!)
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To: 1rudeboy
Great, so I'm an illegal alien because I watch soccer on Univision.

I like soccer on Univision. I don't like sportscasters, a bunch of blah-blah-blah interrupting the game, trying to show how smart they are, throwing in their opinions instead of just reporting on the game, trying to earn their paychecks by annoying me. It's like they think their pay will be docked if they close their mouths for two seconds.

At least with Univision I (rather proudly) don't speak a word of Spanish, so their rambling tripe is less distracting from the game.

144 posted on 06/11/2010 8:04:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: 1rudeboy
Cheryl Bernard certainly had the southside of Chicago bar I hang at enthralled with curling...

...well maybe it wasn't entirely with curling...

145 posted on 06/11/2010 8:04:42 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: 1rudeboy

“I’m actually getting ready to go to the bar and watch the Cubs play the White Sox. That should be boring, because both teams suck.”

Finally I can agree with you.

;o)


146 posted on 06/11/2010 8:05:36 AM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 15 days.)
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To: agere_contra
"body armor"

American football was forced to adopt "armor" as you call back in the early nineteen hundreds simply because too many players were ending up dead. In fact, Teddy Roosevelt was among the people who raised an outcry and called for making the sport safer. How many rugby players die each year from playing their sport?

147 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:10 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“It’s like they think their pay will be docked if they close their mouths for two seconds.”

If they stop talking then a lot of people will get to concentrate on the game for once and realize just how boring it really is and they might stop watching.


148 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:13 AM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 15 days.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

149 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:26 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dfwgator
"American commentators try to do soccer"

They are not American commentators. ESPN hired the best 5 English. They are completely biased toward Mexico.
Not once have they mentioned the long passes that SA just missed.
Notice they are avoiding the statistics of corner kicks, etc. Wonderful first half if you understand and love true football.

150 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:29 AM PDT by AGreatPer (America elected a Prince and got a Princess)
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To: dfwgator
The UEFA Champions League Final is a close second.

I only watch select soccer games outside of the world cup, since the level of play just isn't there for me most of the time. But this is one of the fun ones to watch.

151 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Grunthor
it's just what it sounds like...
152 posted on 06/11/2010 8:07:56 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 1rudeboy
How can "raw numbers [not] do it," when the premise of your argument is numbers?

I mainly used raw numbers for stating the the sport wasn't popular in the U.S. "Popular" and "prestige" are two different things. For instance, I believe the most prestigious trophy in world is the Stanley Cup. There is only one, it is incredibly recognizeable, the whole history of the sport is inscribed on it, people who have never seena hockey game know of it, and there are numerous tales of folklore associated with it. The Super Bowl trophy looks like what it is, a work of the sixties. The most prestigious championship in the world would need to truly be of the whole world. WW II wasn't a World War until the U.S. got into it. I would actually maintain that there is no world-wide most prestigious sport. Olympic gold medals in popular events might come closest.
153 posted on 06/11/2010 8:09:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Lombardi was very much the conservative...

But, why did he support RFK and Gaylord Nelson (the guy behind Earth Day)?

154 posted on 06/11/2010 8:09:36 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: Grunthor

Actually it’s 2 45 minute halves which total 1.5 hours. Now some baseball games can last 3 hours plus and still end up in a tie!


155 posted on 06/11/2010 8:10:16 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: 1rudeboy
i could understand it if it was used as a distraction like crowd noise in football during the snap, but, this never stops...

but what can you expect from SA...

156 posted on 06/11/2010 8:10:41 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 1rudeboy
"Women’s curling! I was glued to my TV."

I kinda had a thing for the Redhead on the Canadian team


157 posted on 06/11/2010 8:13:06 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: 1rudeboy

But yet, they still over charge for tickets.


158 posted on 06/11/2010 8:13:32 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: Walkingfeather
"loath soccer"

Soccer would be an interesting game with less players...like say only eight. And allow the players to bat the ball with their hands. The more players on a field or a court in any sport, the less offense. That's why soccer has such low-scoring games. Ditto for other sports. If basketball had more players on the courst, the scores would much lower. Less room for individual players to operate. American football would also be higher-scoring with less players. Baseball is different, because the amount of players does not affect the score. Three balls rather than four would make the game higher scoring.

159 posted on 06/11/2010 8:13:56 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Sam's Army
“I absolutely hate soccer and so do my kids ...”

Thanks for the update. I hate liver.

try it with bacon!!.....(but soccer still sucks, no matter how much bacon you use)

160 posted on 06/11/2010 8:14:02 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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