Posted on 06/08/2010 6:00:21 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
"Some skeptics have called into question the name of the "Supervisor of Obstetrics" listed on the British Protectorate of Kenya, Mombasa, hospital birth certificate of President Barack Hussien Obama II.
"The name listed in "John Kwame Odongo". Many skeptics (all of which lack any first hand knowledge of Africa or East Africa) have questioned the name "Kwame". The skeptics claim that a Kenya would never give their son a "Ghanaian" name such as "Kwame".
"I (Lucas Smith) have in the past delivered several explanations of the name "John Kwame Odongo". My explanations in the past more than sufficed in squashing wild claims that no Kenya would be allowed such a name.
"Now, through recent investigation, I present an even greater piece of evidence that has been in right in front of our noses as early as January, 2010 (and really for many many many years)..............
"This piece of evidence comes from US President Barack Hussein Obama's half brother in Kenya, "George Hussein Obama", in his 2010 published book, "Homeland: An Extraordinary Story of Hope and Survival".
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
lucysmom posts just like kimbo, have you noticed?
Love your #55 post. It’s awesome.
It’s just somethin’ I stumbled across, and added to.
Glenn “Book” would never dare to touch the BC. Total wasting time!!!
Thank you.
So there can be no misunderstanding, or confusion, the odious lucysmom is not MY mom.
What is your native country and language?
1 Why is hid document dated Feb 19th 2009 and signed by Chief Administrator Maganga who was not yet Chief Administrator on that day ?
2 Where is your promised proof that you have been in Mombasa on Feb 19th 2009 ?
All the rest is distraction.
here are the references to Jennifer Othigo as CA of CPGH before Feb 19th 2009, the date stamped above Magangas signature above Lucas document. This search was done to confirm that naming Othigo was not just an occasional mistake by some journalist.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/499590/-/tm7r8p/-/index.html
http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=227214&page=3
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/english/detail/36898.html
http://www.eastandard.net/news/InsidePage.php?id=1144003096&cid=159&;;;;;;;;
here are the references that Othigo was still CA until April 13th 2009. This is important due to the date stamped on the certificate. Again not just one article
Feb 24th http://www.vvog.be/docs/2009/02/24094002.doc
Mar 26th http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144009846&cid=159&;;;;;;;;
Feb 27th http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=247437&p=Nyeri+Town&page=2
Apr 13th http://www.nation.co.ke/InDepth/-/452898/560148/-/tqw6oqz/-/index.html
Lucas has then searched for some source mentioning maganga as CA of CPGH BEFORE FEB 2oth 2009. He was able to find none. In fact, as he well knows the first references to Maganga as CA of CPGH are form June 2009:
Jun 17th http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=58041
Jun 2009 (Kenya TV video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vL2ErPz7Qk
Following this, and not having found any reference to Maganga CA before Feb 19th 2009, Lucas came up with a new theory: both Othigo and Maganga were CAs on Feb 19th 2009.
Recently however I have found a document, a tender action from CPGH, which CLEARLY implies the CA of that public hospital can only be one. Here is the source, and I suggest you read it.
http://www.ictvillage.com/_Adm.BDetails2.asp?Linkid=1&Infoid=4001&Page=0
LucyT
I know you are not connected to the person calling themselves lucysmom. You post intelligent, thoughtful comments and ask good questions. I have never se3n you arrack anyone.
I think that one is greatkim aka mik taerg aka investigatorsmith (trying to pass himself off as Lucas) aka meenerque77 aka ???who knows what else. It is someone who has attacked Lucas and every one who wants the truth about obama.
We have discussed all this before & you know it. Lucas has answered all requests made of him.
You accuse Lucas of distracting. Instead it is you who try to distract from the issue. I see you going to blogs all over the net and making the same statements over & over again. You will not convince anyone with your monotonous ranting, not to mention your lying, which you have admitted.
Give it up and find another line of work or another subject to get obsessed with, something you know a little about.
I am not on FR very often but I have noticed most of the folks who post here regularly are intelligent and well-informed. AND they see through you. Several have said so.
I laughed. I never even made the connection. And I’m glad she can’t claim you. :-)
“We have discussed all this before & you know it. Lucas has answered all requests made of him.”
Are you serious ?
Evidence of him in Kenya ?
The wrong Chief Administrator ?
If you consider his bs about two administrators in Belgium ans Sushi in New Zealand as answers then you must be kidding.
I am virtually 100% certain that they are not the same person, although they are both obviously compulsive anti-birthers.
So, you obviously contacted Trevor at New Zeal then, as several of us recommended in following posts.
What was his response?
Or are you just talking out of your backside?
Get the hell out of here with your dumb comments.
Oh, OK.
I guess I should commend you on your stellar performance, the amount of success you've achieved, and the professional manner in which you are perceived.
How about you start an FR thread asking for professional help in documenting, proving, and publicizing your assertions? You'll get laser-focused help, if that's your goal. If not, you'll be exposed, objectively, as a poser and a fraud.
Are you up to the challenge?
Look man, nobody wants your BC to be authentic more than I do. But you have failed to get it proven and publicized. Submit your evidence for peer review, just like a scientific paper, and you'll get useful feedback. You might even get (please God make it so) validation.
InspectorSmith needs your help.
That was thoroughly explored by Smith and others at the time he placed the CPGH BC in evidence in federal court. If you go to Smith's “InspectorSmith” Youtube channel the extensive record of all of his investigations and solicitations of help from all and responses to sincere questions is very clear.
Trevor and anyone else following the issue couldn't have helped noticing this and could have contacted Smith if interested in helping him.
I am not a lawyer, but my understanding of the Federal Rules of Evidence (FRE) is that for a foreign birth certificate it is an absolute requirement that ONLY the authorities in the issuing country, Kenya, can authenticate the original CPGH BC.
Neither Trevor, Lucas Smith nor anyone other than Kenyan authorities can meet the FRE requirement.
Without the cooperation of the notoriously tribally biased and corrupt Kenyan authorities, Smith CANNOT authenticate the CPGH BC certified image sufficiently for it to be admitted in US federal court.
In my view (as a retired CPA and CFE Certified Fraud Examiner) Lucas Smith is doing exactly what he is capable of doing with this document to the greatest extent possible and that is to attempt to validate each and every feature of the CPGH BC in a most meticulous fashion.
Time and time again claims by critics that specific features of the CPGH BC are fake have been proved false by Smith and many others (including me regarding a history of the dual date formats in Kenya). Other features remain in dispute, but to my knowledge none have been proved to substantiate a fake or a hoax.
Second, thanks for the well thought-out response. I'll accept what you say about verification as true. Seems reasonable to me.
Trevor and anyone else following the issue couldn't have helped noticing this and could have contacted Smith if interested in helping him.
Did he contact Trevor? That was my question. One can't assume that when one sings in the wilderness that Simon Cowell will somehow hear one's dulcet tones.
Also, a youtube channel?
How about a website? How about, to cover expenses, *selling* high-resolution copies of the documentation, and creating a FAQ which includes answers to questions like "Where is the proof you traveled to Africa?"
Thanks again. Please, *please* succeed, so we can send the dear Kenyan bastard back home...
Paragraphs are your friend.
You appear to have not yet visited Lucas Smith's website.
http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith
The InspectorSmith Youtube channel IS a website...a video website with over 100,000 views and voluminous comment interactions for each of his numerous videos and a topside comments section.
As we have seen with the Factcheck COLB, any digital image, including a “high resolution” image can be manipulated and proves nothing without submission of the source document to forensic examination.
Lucas Smith does not have the source document in his possession, only what purports to be a “certified” copy of an original 1961 document the location of which is unknown (likely in Kenya it it still exists).
I don't get how you think Trevor could help Lucas. As I explained, only the Kenyan authorities could satisfy US FRE requirements which is the only way the the CPGH BC could ever be used in US courts to remove Obama.
There are many reasons, including possible personal safety of whose involved, why Lucas may be withholding exact details to your satisfaction and mine regarding how he came into possession of his document.
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