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Losing friends over Palin (Have you ever lost friends over politics ?)

Posted on 05/31/2010 9:46:47 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: DoughtyOne
Keep it up. You're still not answering.

All sound and fury; all hat, no cattle. But it's obvious now you can't answer.......

It's a great example fwiw.

361 posted on 06/02/2010 12:25:41 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agress with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccain.html

362 posted on 06/02/2010 12:26:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: EveningStar

Thats simply not true.

Why in the hell are these Soros groups attacking ? What was behind all of the fake ethics complaints ? Why is the media still trying to discredit her ?

They know she can win. They know it. She WILL win. Do you realize the hell she went through FOR US in 2008. She deserves are support. People who think she just “can’t win” are bleeping cowards who wouldn’t vote for her anyway.


363 posted on 06/02/2010 12:32:30 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

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364 posted on 06/02/2010 12:33:34 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: xsmommy

You don’t believe that because you buy into the Lame Stream Media lies, right ?

let me guess. You don’t think she is “educated enough” ?


365 posted on 06/02/2010 12:37:32 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: DoughtyOne

I saw somewhere...

90% of the candidates Palin has supported so far are SOLID conservatives. The other 10% was a mistake. But she shouldnt have to take that to her grave with her. There is no perfect candidate.


366 posted on 06/02/2010 12:40:41 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


367 posted on 06/02/2010 12:43:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I actully agree with you in a way. But I am not going to expect Palin to toe MY LINE or YOUR LINE.

There is no perfect candidate in any race.


368 posted on 06/02/2010 12:46:06 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Use that link. Then you come back and try to pass the support of this miserable bastard off to a mere mistake, something the best of people could have done.

You and other people on this and other threads have been trying to blur the issues concerning Palin. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

This is a Conservative forum. We expect posters here to understand what you can and cannot support, if you are a Conservative. And we expect candor when people we support do consummately stupid things.

You are arguing with people who are Conservatives, and have acknowledge a serious problem. Why you feel so compelled to waste their and your time on this, is beyond me. It calls to question your motives.


369 posted on 06/02/2010 12:52:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne

My motives ?

I don’t support John McCain.

Lets get that straight.

And don’t mess with me.


370 posted on 06/02/2010 12:56:30 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I didn’t post to you first. It won’t do any good for you to tell me what to do or imply a threat if I don’t.

If you are supporting Sarah Palin despite her support for John McCain against J.D. Hayworth, you are supporting John McCain whether you want to admit it or not.

Kiss my -—.


371 posted on 06/02/2010 12:59:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I support Sarah Palin for who she is and what her record is.

I can’t stand John McCain. I can’t stand RINO’s

Did you know Ronald Reagan once supported John McCain, Arlen Specter and before that...ADLAI STEVENSON in 1952 ?

I guess Sandy Koufax lost some baseball games too.


372 posted on 06/02/2010 1:05:57 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

So that makes it okay for Sarah to back John McCain? Ronald Reagan left politics 22 years ago.

God, you folks need some new talking points, ones that don’t fly in the face of reality.

You’re blowing nothing but smoke, and you’re the only person on this thread who refuses to acknowledge it.

Here you actually name names to buttress the support for McCain, but still maintain you don’t support him.

Does that really make sense to you?


373 posted on 06/02/2010 1:10:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne

For me there are two John McCain’s...

There is the guy from Vietnam. And then there is the politician who is spineless and weak.

I voted for him. But really my vote was for Sarah Palin because she was the opposite of spineless and weak.

I hope JD wins and we can put this in the past.


374 posted on 06/02/2010 1:14:53 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative ("I would rather be hated and be a pain in their side than hated and act classy".. me)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
For me there are two John McCain’s...  There is the guy from Vietnam. And then there is the politician who is spineless and weak.

For me there are three McCains.  None of them are spineless and weak.  It isn't spinelessness that caused him to join Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry, Russel Fiengold, and Lieberman to continually introduce terrible bills on the floor of the U.S. Senate.  It was his shoulder to shoulder support of the legislation only a Leftist could sign on to, that caused him to do it.

There was the pre-military service part of John McCain's life.  He was a bully as a kid, a screw-up in school, and evidently a screw-up during his flight training.

Then there is his activity post military service, during which he joined four Democrats to become the guy who got the biggest payoff of the Keating Five members.  He was the guy who joined George Soros, Terresa Heinz Kerry, and the Tides foundation to create a political action committee.  His campaign staff continued to draw big salaries even after John dropped out prior to 2008.  It was this same John McCain who hired the right hand man of Mexico's president, to help push through his not an amnesty amensty included in his 2007 Comprehensive Immigration Overhaul bill.

So John was a F/U before his military service, and a consumate F/U after that.  His actions are all on the record for anyone who wants to know.

And that's why I don't trust John to have been an excellent member of the military.  You don't go from F/U to best military guy around to F/U.  For John Fing/U was a way of life.  So I don't generally touch on his military life.  It's an unknown at best.

I voted for him. But really my vote was for Sarah Palin because she was the opposite of spineless and weak.

A lot of people did, and I'm not going to fault you for it.  I couldn't because I knew he would jetison Palin's advice the moment he was elected.  His sordid history would be revealed in everything he proposed as president.  I wanted no part of it.  He confirmed this perception to my way of thinking, when he allowed his campaign staffers to take her on after the election, and he let her twist in the wind.  A man of character doesn't do that.  And then when he needed her again... what a low life.

I hope JD wins and we can put this in the past.

So do I.  And just as important, I wish a certain person would go on the record before the primary, so that we actually could put this behind us.  If they don't, this is going to hang over their head from here on out.  One candidate deserves our support in Arizona, and that should be abundantly clear to everyone.  If it isn't, then what else don't those people know?


375 posted on 06/02/2010 1:31:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

sorry, you guess wrong. I don’t watch the MSM. I think David Brooks, Kathleen Parker and Peggy Noonan all suffer from PDS. I think Joe McGuinnuis is a moonbatty pervert. Ronald Reagan didn’t have an ivy league education and was a great president, but he had far more under his belt by the time he ran for president than she currently has. She might have what it takes someday, not today.
IMO, there is FAR TOO MUCH sturm and drang on FR, both pro and con, over Sarah Palin’s potential candidacy. Moreover, she is still too polarizing a force. If she garners this reaction on a forum of conservatives, how do you hope for her to attract moderates and leftists [who despise her] sufficiently for her to be elected?


376 posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:29 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: DoughtyOne
LOL. Double the hyperbole.

I realize I've been asking you to back up your statement I said was an example of hyperbole, but you seem to continue to forget to answer.

Just in case you need to remember, here's post 351 to you:

"From your post 325: It just amazes me to come to this forum and see folks say, “She probably couldn’t do any worse than Obama, and would probably be better than Bush.”

A great example of hyperbole, you make it sound like that's a common attitude, and I'm betting you can't find many posts that say that out of the tens of thousands, heck I'm not even sure you can find one."

377 posted on 06/02/2010 1:50:16 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


378 posted on 06/02/2010 1:54:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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To: DoughtyOne
You're so funny......

I'll take that as a "I can't answer, I can't defend my own statement, I'm embarrassed, so I'll just keep posting the same dumb crap over and over again so you can't remind me."

379 posted on 06/02/2010 1:58:05 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, BTW, this is what Sarah Palin seems to think makes a guy like John McCain worthy of her support against a solid Conservative.

And, I should point out that you are a person who evidently agrees with her.  You defend her here regularly.

So I guess you two make a pretty good team.  One of you supports the biggest RINO most of us have ever seen, and the other defends her for doing it against all comers.

Yep, the biggest threat you've been able to spot on this thread, is me.  A person who won't sit still for Palin's and your behavior on Conservative matters.

It is interesting, who in your mind seems to be the biggest threat to Conservatism.  Me.  Of course McCain and his lackey Palin aren't.  Nah, that just doesn't compute for you.  You spend your time taking me on, but can't work up so much as a five word sentence to condemn what McCain or Palin are up to.

She has television spots running in Arizona on a regular basis showering complementary phrases on the man that has done this.  And you spend your time taking on people like me here.

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


380 posted on 06/02/2010 1:58:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (J. D. Hayworth, the next Senator, the Great State of Arizona - Sen. Poopdeck, Panama is calling...)
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