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Losing friends over Palin (Have you ever lost friends over politics ?)

Posted on 05/31/2010 9:46:47 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Liberalism is not a political affiliation - it is an addiction that provides social acceptance to combat terrifying feelings of powerlessness, and is based on loyalty alone.

Loyalty alone.

There is no intermediate punishment for disloyalty. There is no understanding, no discussion, no therapy, nothing. Disloyalty is punished by abslute, total rejection from the group, and the utter loss of the single factor - group acceptance - that countered the intensely fearful feelings of powerlessness.

Liberals run on pure terror. They obey their groups out of terror. And the Leftist handlers of these groups simultaniously stoke the terror, parse out acceptance, destroy the disloyal, programm political positions, and above all teach that the liberal way of life is the highest level of moral perfection.

It’s a mind control system that is supported by childhood and youth and college indoctrination in the public schools, and rewarded with jobs in government, education and multinational corporations.

There is zero difference between why a liberal will not listen to facts and become enraged at contrary political positions, and why a North Korean will not listen to facts and become enraged at contrary political positions - for them, in their own minds, it is literally a matter of survival.


121 posted on 06/01/2010 2:47:26 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

After November 4th 2008 I started reading about what Marxists were doing to us. They want to eliminate God. They want to destroy marriage. They want to destroy the military. Their intention is to destroy the economy to make all of middle class America dependant on the government.

I eliminated everybody from my list of friends and associates who are trying to do those things. They were all liberal Democrats. Funny, other than editing my conversation around them, I’d never really thought of them as enemies of my culture until they were obviously succeeding.

I have decided that life is too short so show more than the minimum of passing civility to those who would destroy us.

One of them had been fairly close. He asked why I didn’t come around anymore and I told him. He was shocked because God didn’t have anyplace in modern society and marriage between a man and a woman was so 9th century and unnecessary and the military was hideously macho and old-fashioned and bigoted. I nodded civilly and said goodbye. I understand from a mutual friend that my former buddy is still amazed that any of these issues matter to anybody. I’m sure I’m now just some dirty tea-partier. Having attended the 912 march in Washington and several “protests” in Tallahassee, I believe I could pick any 10 tea-partiers at random and find 8 I’d like as permanent friends. Life is too short to spend even a moment with somebody who attended Farrakhan’s million man march or who even owns a Che t-shirt.


122 posted on 06/01/2010 3:01:53 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Life is too short to waste time on idiots...I could be gardening or reading a good book. Both are productive ventures; arguing with a leftist jackass is not. I do not have a leftist in my family or among my circle of friends, and I like it that way...


123 posted on 06/01/2010 3:02:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: beaversmom
My SIL likes to play this trick at work--She goes into work and tells her Obama loving coworkers, "Did you hear that stupid thing that Sarah Palin said?" Then she recites the stupid thing. She then says, "Oh wait a minute! Nevermind, that was Barack Obama!"

LOL..."Did you see that dumbass Sarah Palin standing out in a thunderstorm with a metal-framed umbrella? ...and her dumbass supporters standing there with metal chairs hoisted over their heads? Oh, wait...that was BARACK OBAMA and HIS jackass followers. Never mind."

Your SIL may be on to something...

124 posted on 06/01/2010 3:09:05 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
I am a woman and I can tell you that many women are vicious when they feel envy and jealousy. Sarah Palin is a very beautiful, young, charismatic woman who has succeeded in a man's world, while being wife to a real “dude” and Mother to a beautiful, large brood of children. I cannot think of a woman to match Sarah Palin..She really stirs up that old devil, ENVY, among females and among males, too, who are fearful of their manhood.
125 posted on 06/01/2010 3:12:47 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

yep, you are going too far.


126 posted on 06/01/2010 3:38:47 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Well if they dont like Sarah Palin fine, the question is are they defending the Jerk in the White House Now?
If they voted for the fraud Obama they would have ceased to be my friends long ago and I would consider myself fortunate


127 posted on 06/01/2010 3:42:37 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

you asked, melas answered and now you bash. Think about it.


128 posted on 06/01/2010 3:43:02 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

you are OhioYoung.. I am OhioOld

Learned a LONG time ago that people who are really a lot different than me religiously or politically really aren’t “friend” material.. they are acquaintances. I used to compromise, say nothing, lie, walk on eggshells to keep these “friends”.

Then an epiphany

I have now many more true friends and avoid those who are so different. You may have other things in common but unless you want a life filled with pain, you are better off early on just not getting involved. ESP for a spouse!

That is my take on things


129 posted on 06/01/2010 3:43:18 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think I can understand. They become so belittling and demeaning, even knowing that you like her, that it gets to where they are insulting YOU by continuing to bash.


130 posted on 06/01/2010 3:46:55 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Can around 25-30% moonbat base really steal the country from us and hold it?)
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To: imahawk

Amen to that! I dis-associated myself with all dems, family or otherwise back during the era of Anklepants.

I haven’t missed a single one of ‘em.


131 posted on 06/01/2010 3:57:16 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: ichabod1

you know, I think people “act” like the people they see screaming on TV. They “act” like the talking heads who interrupt, distort, demean one another.

Politics is politics, sure it has repercussions in real life, but it is politics.

And some people you can talk with, others you can’t.

For instance, if a good conservative on this forum is not liking Palin, that person is attacked viciously in the most adolescent way.

I think our poster needs to wonder why he asks if he is going too far and then piles on anyone who says that he may be.

I have met stupid conservatives and stupid liberals. I have people in lmy family who are liberals and who make fun of Palin. I have people in my family who love Palin and people who reserve judgement.

Families aren’t reflections of what you are nor are your friends. If you want to exist in a room of mirrors that is your thing. But for most of us who just want to go to the family barbecue, christening, graduation and wedding and get along and cherish our family members, and friends, politics won’t intrude if we don’t let it.


132 posted on 06/01/2010 3:58:13 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

You lost your friends not over Palin but rather that you share her beliefs, or many of them.


133 posted on 06/01/2010 4:44:35 AM PDT by jla
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

My guess is that you’re being too harsh and going too far.

Based on your various vanities re: SP it’s my opinion that your feelings about Sarah Palin go beyond respect, admiration and enthusiasm and into something less healthy.... They reflect an unbending, disrespectful, purge-the-nonbelievers attitude towards those who don’t utterly share your conviction—and that’s with fellow FReepers who share many of the same values.

If you’re behaving the same way with your friends in real life I’d say you’re not being a good ambassador for conservatism or SP.

Seriously, take a look at your posting history here and the name calling you’ve engaged in and ask yourself if you’d want to be friends with you.


134 posted on 06/01/2010 5:08:04 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Aria

Please do not take this the wrong way. Do you believe that there is something you did or failed to do that caused yourchild to turn out liberal? Your advice would be valuable to parents/future parents.


135 posted on 06/01/2010 5:14:58 AM PDT by fire4effect
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Maybe you should get used to the idea that not all Americans blindly worship Sarah and that those who don’t are not necessarily stupid. Or you could get used to an ever shrinking social circle.


136 posted on 06/01/2010 5:17:44 AM PDT by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: moose-matson

I am not a supporter of Palin for president, but admire her.

I do grow weary of the leftist morons who suggest that Palin is dumb as a rock, while holding to the delusional idea that Obama is brilliant....and the anti-Palinist will distance themselves from those who defend her.


137 posted on 06/01/2010 5:28:54 AM PDT by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: Melas

Wow...You said it all and so eloquently and straight forward.

I think we get our emotions of patriotism and our values somehow connected to the person...but you are right, the devotion doesn’t go both ways.


138 posted on 06/01/2010 5:35:21 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I think with this post you have identified your own problem.


139 posted on 06/01/2010 5:47:10 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I have to put up with Obama voters at work but that is the only pleace I do. I consider an Obama voter the enemy.


140 posted on 06/01/2010 5:53:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (NJ Governor Chris Christie for President)
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