[Mr Rogers]

“Additionally, in terms of how the Framers would have recognized Loyalty to the British Crown from a British Subject, Obama’s loyalty to the Crown — whether or not Obama recognizes this loyalty — ENDURES THIS VERY MOMENT and for as long as Obama shall live.”

We fought a war in 1812 in part to reject the idea that once a British subject, always a British subject - yet you claim that Obama was ruled by that principle in 2008?

You’re a nut!

I suggest taking a poll: “Is Obama disqualified for office due to his being a subject of Queen ELizabeth 2? Answers: Yes, No, Laughing too hard to respond”.

THAT is why birthers lose every time - because y’all believe things like that, or believe that Rush & Coulter are part of the liberal fix! (”Are you aware how much Rush Limbaugh is paid???/ And “presstitute” Coulter would never be able to promote her books” post 606)

And that is why it harms conservatives to tolerate you - because tolerating drivel such as that makes us all look like nuts. That isn’t being PC, but reasonable - a person who tolerates the views of a crazy is tainted by the craziness.

I will make an exception for El Gato, who argues the birther case with both reason and passion. His posts are worth reading and thinking about. But the rest of you are nuts!

[Mr Rogers]

Add post 626 for repeat craziness:

Rush writes in Wall Street Journal about his commitment to the Constitution, Glenn Beck literally cries over the document, Bill OReilly waves a computer print out at his viewers, Coulter compares us to a KKK march....All of these yappers are either phonies or cowards ( or both).

Beck, Coulter, and OReilly were especially flat-out insulting!

Some things are deal breakers. I will never trust them again.

Nuts!

[BP2]

> We fought a war in 1812 in part to reject the idea that once a British
> subject, always a British subject - yet you claim that Obama was ruled by
> that principle in 2008?

You claim to be a Conservative, yet the legal precedence of Original Intent
by the SCOTUS seems alien to you.

Since the definition of “natural-born Citizen” is confusing to you,
how does Mr Rogers define “Original Intent”?

Or is the Constitution a living breathing document that’s altered — not by
the Constitutional amendment process — but by the events of war and
peace and the whims of those in power at that moment?

Please show us what you “know” as the Conservative you claim to be ...

[lentulusgracchus]

But the rest of you are nuts!

I beg your pardon. I'm not a "Birther", I'm a "passporter".

I'm interested in Obama's missing, suppressed papers certifying his renaturalization when he and his mother returned from Jakarta. I'm also interested in his collegiate and scholarship records.

Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro (I think she spelled it "Sutoro") was a Ph.D.-level sociological anthropologist working in Indonesia, and I've read that she was an Indonesian citizen for much of her life, and still was one when she passed away.

Better info, anyone?

In light of which, it's fair to ask whether Obama was, for a period of several years, an Indonesian citizen, and then a naturalized citizen of the United States.

[rolling_stone]

Do you believe the President of the US should have to qualify as per the Constitution?

[danamco]

But the rest of you are nuts!

I rather be a nut than a military defector like you and John sKerry!!!

[BP2]

We fought a war in 1812 in part to reject the idea that once a British subject, always a British subject - yet you claim that Obama was ruled by that principle in 2008? You’re a nut!

Are you sure that it was “rejected” as part of the War of 1812? Once again, you don't do your homework do you?

This from the preamble of the Expatriation Act of 1868, enacted nearly 90 years after the Constitution was ratified and all of the Framers had since passed away (the last to die was Madison in 1836):

Whereas the right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of all people, indispensable to the enjoyment of the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; and whereas in the recognition of this principle, this government has freely received emigrants from all nations, and invested them with the rights of citizenship; and whereas it is claimed that such American citizens, with their descendents, are subjects of foreign states, owing allegiance to the governments thereof; and whereas it is necessary to the maintenance of public peace that this claim of foreign allegiance should be promptly and finally disavowed;

But again, this doesn't matter as the SCOTUS must apply common law in use at the time of the Framing to determine the meaning of "natural-born Citizen" as it appears in Art II, § 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution.

[danamco]

THAT is why birthers lose every time - because y’all believe things like that, or believe that Rush & Coulter are part of the liberal fix! (”Are you aware how much Rush Limbaugh is paid???/ And “presstitute” Coulter would never be able to promote her books” post 606)

Here's another question: Have you ever heard Rush Limbaugh throwing out a one-liner:"What have God and Obummer in common?" ???

[Plummz]

Do you have a long-standing personal relationship with Ann Coulter whereby you can personally vouch for her integrity?

Or are you just a delusional nutbag who thinks people he sees on television are your honest and true friends?