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To: El Gato

Thanks for asking. My Dad flew P-47s & P51s in WW2, then B-26s in Korea. Most of his career was in interceptors, and he liked the 104. He was an instructor in Taiwan, I think, although I was only 7 at the time.

In 1971 he cross-trained into helicopters, then went to Vietnam. He was supposed to do mostly paperwork, but he flew helicopters 3 days a week, and A-37s on his ‘paperwork’ days. He was killed in a helicopter crash in April 1972.

A remarkable man, and a remarkable generation. His brothers all did quite well by a combination of intelligence and very hard work. 12 hours was a light day to them, and evenings were for study and trying to better oneself. After my Dad died, my Mom revealed he had suffered from frequent and terrible nightmares, but he never once told her a word about what was in them. An uncle in the Merchant Marine was washed overboard 3 times in WW2, and his family didn’t find out until seeing his records after his death.

I don’t have a single memory of my Dad ever complaining about anything. I can’t imagine what he would think of the identity politics and entitlement mentality today. It is a very different world, and that isn’t a compliment to today!

To briefly return to the topic - you are correct, the Supreme Court has never formally ruled on NBC. I was surprised when they passed in Dec 2008, and now I doubt they will ever rule. I’d be happy if they would roll back some of WKA, which IMHO amended the Constitution by court fiat in ignoring the whole ‘under the jurisdiction’ phrase. Of course, it is a safe bet that the ‘wise Latina’ added recently would never vote for that...

Thanks for enduring my rants. I’ve spent a fair bit of the day thinking about the changes in America, and it makes for some sad thoughts. We don’t see eye to eye, but I wish you the best as you go on.


400 posted on 05/16/2010 7:26:31 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

“I don’t have a single memory of my Dad ever complaining about anything”

I see it didn’t rub off. I can tell you’re proud of him. I wonder what he would think of your new positions and comrades.


402 posted on 05/16/2010 7:35:32 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: Mr Rogers
Thanks for enduring my rants. I’ve spent a fair bit of the day thinking about the changes in America, and it makes for some sad thoughts

And yet you show up on everyone of these threads to defend the man who is bringing about the destruction of this Country.

You yourself stated that you condone the idea of obama having a foreign father, would you have that opinion if it turned out that osama bin laden turned out to be obama's real father?

You have also stated that for every argument for NBC being of two citizen parents, there is one against, why?

You choose the arguments that support the man you portend to despise, and you wonder why some here abuse you the way they have, you're a disgrace to the uniform if you really wore one.

411 posted on 05/16/2010 8:26:56 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Mr Rogers
I’d be happy if they would roll back some of WKA, which IMHO amended the Constitution by court fiat in ignoring the whole ‘under the jurisdiction’ phrase

It is kind of hard to understand how a person born on an Indian reservation, tribal government or not, and thus at least as "subject to the jurisdiction" as a legal resident alien, would not be a citizen, while the alien's child would be.

I would not even mind the WKA ruling, IF it weren't generalized to the children of parents (or parent) illegally in the country. How are they, the parents, subject to the jurisdiction of the US? The don't pay federal taxes, (if they can help it, they often are subject to witholding and SS taxes, to accounts not actually theirs) and they are subject to immediate deportation.

I could buy the "everyone but foreign diplomats" arguement on "subject to the jurisdiction, on it's face anyway, if it were not for the "Indians" thing.

And of course the fact remains that the intent was to ensure that the newly freed Blacks, who were in no sense "aliens", would not be denied citizenship by the states.

563 posted on 05/17/2010 5:58:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Mr Rogers
I’d be happy if they would roll back some of WKA, which IMHO amended the Constitution

WTF?????, you're an idiot and a troll.

Please splain it to us birfers how SCOTUS can amend the Constitution.................waiting.

567 posted on 05/17/2010 6:07:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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