If dual citizenship was a matter of law & it mattered NOT for the sake of the executive branch, then why is it that anyone working or interning at the white house to this day must take an oath renouncing any foreign allegiance they might have acquired during their life?
A most excellent assessment of why people hassle on these threads, by zzeeman:
The most “curious” aspect of all of this “anti-birther” propaganda that appears here is the simple question: why would anyone that claims to be “conservative” (most, but not all of them, do) ever bother to spend so much time and energy researching and posting all of this propaganda?
Without suspending disbelief and making a huge leap of faith, I can’t accept that there are any valid reasons for this activity, other than the simple fact that they wish to discredit and ultimately silence all discussion of the very serious issues that surround the background and Constitutional eligibility of the present occupant of the White House. The level of severity of this situation is very grave, arguably the most dangerous situation that has confronted our country since its founding. In my opinion, it is not too provocative or hyperbolic to acknowledge that we are currently living within the unfolding of a grave Constitutional crisis that began on November 4, 2008.
It is precisely the severity of this crisis, combined with the daily assaults on our Constitution, Freedom, Liberty, Society, and Economy that makes this an issue that no true Conservative would willingly battle against. I’m sorry, I don’t buy any of the excuse or motives that I’ve read here. I’ve read that some people have been “insulted” in these threads so now the argument has become “personal” for them. I’ve read that some have motives since they are a parent of a child that doesn’t meet the Natural Born Citizen eligibility requirements stated for the President and Vice President of the United States, so they somehow feel that they have a vested interest in somehow finding a way in having this sacred requirement subverted (just in case their child wishes to run for either of these 2 offices when they are 35 years of age). I’ve also read many times that they simply wish to redirect the efforts of fellow conservatives toward more “constructive” issues, causes, and pursuits (which absurdly presumes that no one can effectively multi-task at any given point in time). And of course we always hear about how “embarrassing” they believe it makes conservatives look to the “general public” and state-run media. (This last one is really a gem. What it presumes is that “if we conservatives just act normal and play nice, then the state run media will represent our issues, candidates, and politicians fairly.” To me, this is as sane as hearing the left wring their hands and whine “if we would just stop oppressing those poor people, then they would stop terrorizing us.” Both arguments are equally inane.)
I am not suggesting that every Conservative citizen, politician, or pundit needs to make this issue the forefront of their daily thought, deliberation, and speech. I respect the fact that some people may just not be “comfortable” with dealing with this issue, or speaking about it a public (or even private) forum. We all (still) have the right to what we deem important issues on which to direct our time, energy, and other resources. However, given the stakes of our collective situation, I can not fathom why any sane Conservative would spend an ounce of their energy trying to argue against a conclusion that would be of great benefit in our fight to overturn the oppressive tyranny that is being forced onto us on a daily basis. I readily admit that no one really understands how this issue may play out over time. At a minimum, hopefully it leads to more and more of our fellow citizens becoming more aware of the murky (to be kind) circumstances that surround virtually every aspect and period of the occupant’s life and background. And perhaps this increased awareness will lead to them becoming more active in pursuing truth and better understanding the travesties that are being unfolded on a daily basis by this regime and its supporters and enablers. Beyond that I can not accurately speculate on what may ensue. However, for all true Conservatives the ultimate outcome would be the invalidation and nullification of all (or at least most) of the un-Constitutional, immoral, and illegal acts that the regime has inflicted on our great and beloved Country.
So regardless of how any of us may choose to spend our time and energies, regardless of how plausible or “credible” we may see these issues to be, the only reasonable and logical (which are key underpinnings of Conservatism) reaction to these issues would be along the lines of a simple “No thanks, not for me; but Good Luck in your chosen battle, I hope that you succeed!” for any of us that choose not to be active in this pursuit. I am sorry, I just can’t make the leap from that sort of slightly apathetic (but still supportive) reaction to the incredible amounts of energy and time that we witness daily on these threads. I don’t have any quantitative measures to use as illustrative data points, but I know that I am not alone in being absolutely astounded at the amount of time, energy, and (perhaps most revealing) passion that I see being expended by those that are ostensibly arguing against the sane resolution of a whole host of issues that can only serve to provide strategic and operative victories (even if they are incremental in nature) in our struggle against tyranny.
676 posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 3:25:57 PM by zzeeman