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The definition continues: There is no distinction between native born...and..natural born.

Here is the copy of John Jay's letter to George Washington stating..only a natural born citizen be given command of the American Army

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Lets go to the Colonial period in Virginia depicting the difference between a native born and an English born immigrant:

"The society that developed in the Chesapeake was so unique that British officials often made explicit distinctions between the English-born and the “natives” or "creoles” born in Virginia.

A trend developed where native-born whites were increasingly singled out by English writers as “natives,” “Virginians,” and “creoles” as they achieved dominance in a colonial government previously controlled by English-born immigrants"

page 11 http://research.history.org/Files/Archaeo/ResPubs/Ethnicity%20and%20Identity%20Formation.pdf

Obama is not a native, native born or natural born citizen in the US.

1 posted on 05/14/2010 3:21:19 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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Here is the copy of John Jay's letter to George Washington stating..only a natural born citizen be given command of the American Army.

Given that most colonists had been born English subjects and children of British (or other foreign) subjects it's going to take a bit to figure that out.

I suspect he probably meant not someone who'd been born outside of the colonies. Gates and Lee had been born in Britain, Montgomery in Ireland, Mercer in Scotland, Lafayette, de Kalb, von Steuben, Kościuszko, Pulaski on the European continent. With all those more or less foreign generals and colonels in the army would it really matter so much where Greene's or Morgan's or Knox's or Putnam's father or mother had been born?

"The society that developed in the Chesapeake was so unique that British officials often made explicit distinctions between the English-born and the “natives” or "creoles” born in Virginia.

Reminiscent of what was going on in the Spanish colonies at the same time.

But did we really adopt the Spanish distinction between creoles and peninsulares and simply flip it upside down?

348 posted on 05/16/2010 1:15:12 PM PDT by x
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I believe the correct phrase is Natural Born Citizen as required in the Constitution.


593 posted on 05/17/2010 7:37:37 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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What else is new?


654 posted on 05/18/2010 9:55:06 AM PDT by sport
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