Posted on 05/14/2010 11:18:22 AM PDT by grady
“The airsoft can be converted to an AR-15,” firearms manufacturer Leo Gonnuscio told FoxNews.com after testing the make and model of airsoft guns seized by the ATF.
Having concluded that several other airsoft guns could not be converted to fire real ammunition, Gonnuscio said he was surprised to find that he was able to to transform this particular gun to the real thing -- and with “minimal work,” because its bottom half, or “receiver,” is so similar to an AR-15's.
To make the airsoft receiver function just like an AR-15’s, Gonnuscio said, “All you have to do is drill one hole.”
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
“they usually range in size from 5.93 to 5.98 mm in diameter ...”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft_pellets
>That’s all the ATF cares about: it can fire ONCE.
And we know that a hammer, brick, and .22lr can be used to fire once...
Some new Transformers movie, perhaps?
Call it the ACORN model....target the customer base.
“All you have to do is drill one hole.”
Take one piece of triple wall seamless steel pipe, one pipe plug,then ....“All you have to do is drill one hole.”
And you have a muzzle loading firearm.
How can you have a “slam-fire” in a bolt action? The real difference between NATO 5.56 and 7.62 and commercial .223 and .308 is the chamber pressure. NATO loads are fairly mild compared to some commercial loads, and NATO-spec guns are designed for NATO-strength loads. Same thing with M1 Garands that get blown up with commercial loads.
See post #51
To get the McGyver award you must first build a fire with nothing more than a penis and a bottle of hand lotion....
That’s what I’m wondering. The usual reason for higher pressure in military ammo is that the brass is thicker which decreases internal case volume which increases pressure with the same amount of powder.
thanx
>>This is highly misleading. Anyone can already buy a stripped lower receiver without going through a FFL and assembling an AR.
Simply not true. The stripped lower receiver of an AR *is* “the gun” legally, and buying one requires BATFE paperwork and background check.
This brings up the whole issue of “what part makes the gun?” With an FAL, for instance, it is the upper receiver that is the serial numbered part that “counts”, and not the lower. I never did understand why the lower was the part on ARs, but that is the deal.
Exactly, and see my previous post.
I’m pretty sure that a stripped lower is still considered a firearm by the ATF. To avoid being considered a firearm, it needs to be less than 80% complete, i.e. a significant amount of skilled machining is required.
Upper receivers are not controlled.
An 80% complete lower is considered a firearm. If you buy a stripped lower and install trigger and springs yourself you are good to go.
Under PA law at the moment you can still sell a complete long gun or receiver to another individual without going through a FFL.
“What is is probably trying to do is put a real upper receiver on an air soft lower receiver.”
The trigger group on an airsoft rifle is compatable with an AR-15 upper?
An airsoft lower receiver will accept an AR-15 magazine and it will feed?
I doubt it.
If they’re saying that you could lash together a real upper with the toy lower, put a 5.56mm round into the real upper’s chamber, charge the handle and the toy lower would somehow hold the bolt back until the trigger is pulled - once - then maybe. But honest-to-god functioning, no.
This is gun-grabber dishonesty.
Yes. In most states, a sale between two private parties doesn’t need to go through an FFL.
However, a stripped lower receiver for an AR15 is considered a firearm and requires the same background check as a complete rifle if purchased through a dealer. Like a rifle, a private sale for a stripped lower would not need an FFL in most states.
A key issue in this case is whether the Airsoft lower is more or less than 80% complete (assuming it can actually be built up to a complete rifle). I don’t believe an 80% lower is considered a firearm. Assuming you have the tools and knowledge to do the finish machining, no FFL would be needed to build a rifle for your own use. BUT, you could not legally sell that rifle to anyone.
How come there is no one in charge of the ATF that can figure out that a toy is a toy? Must be awfully bored. Or following orders.
I think deep down there is a gun-grabber mentality at ATF. Or maybe not that deep.
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