To your second point, I've been seeing the same knee-jerk reactions that people had during what I'm calling the "discovery phase" of this issue, that is, finding out the facts of Obama's birth situation and the relevant laws at the time, and the reporting on the reporting of the "birthers."
The people who were on the recent "investigation" thread are immediately discrediting it by saying things like "the 14th amendment doesn't appply so this report has no credibility," or on this thread with things like "I watched until..." because some discredited fact was reported as true, when the focus of the report was not on reporting facts as true but on reporting what was reported in order to demonstrate mischief in reporting. (sorry for the long run-on sentence)
Let's see some more discussion on that, and stop bickering over the credibility of the claims. We're past that, and the latest round of reports is on the purposeful misreporting of the birth-eligibility story, and who was behind it.
-PJ
I missed that thread so I can't speak to your point, sounds like I missed a good one, would you happen to have a link?
I still need to watch the rest of the vids and will a little later, I have a few errands to run.
Maybe we can pick this back up then?