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To: happinesswithoutpeace

I could be mistaken but I seem to recall that prior to his death, word was out that some of the material he used for his books came from some of his aides who did the research for him. Wheather he took credit for other peoples work or just relied on their research without verifying I don’t remember.


3 posted on 04/25/2010 4:18:32 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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And then there’s Doris Kearns Goodwin...


4 posted on 04/25/2010 4:21:37 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Ya I think some authors jacked him to.


5 posted on 04/25/2010 4:21:43 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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To: mware

McCullough regularly sends research assistants to the Library of Congress.


7 posted on 04/25/2010 4:29:10 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: mware
The Plagiarist: Why Stephen Ambrose is a vampire.

It's lefty Slate but is pretty much accurate here. Ambrose was a fraud and NARA has just reconfirmed it.

10 posted on 04/25/2010 4:32:09 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: mware
Yes, as I recall there were several allegations---not just "The Wild Blue," but some passages from his book on the railroads and others, where he used verbatim wording (or extremelly similar adjectives and sentence structure) and didn't give credit.

Look, no one knows better than I, who have published some 25 books, how easy it is to think you "thought of" something original when in fact you had read it in another source a long time ago and forgot that in fact you were dredging up words that you had internalized. All authors do it---it's like a musician thinking he has come up with an original lick only to hear a record played 20 years earlier that he had heard and forgotten.

The safe way to do that is to document the heck out of EVERYTHING. I probably over cite, because it isn't right to copy other's phrases or whatever.

But on the negative side, SA built a little history empire, which involved research assistants gathering and even writing some of his stuff, then him putting finishing touches on, and in that case, you absolutely cannot police it effectively.

As for the time spent with Ike, that's serious stuff, and his bio of Ike was in large part built on this face time. Isn't it ironic, then, that Ambrose, who probably did NOT have the face time with his subject, wrote an objective and fair treatment while Edmund Morris who DID have unprecedented access to Reagan, completely blew it by inserting fictional characters (himself) repeatedly throughout the book "Dutch"?

33 posted on 04/25/2010 6:16:52 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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