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To: conservativegramma

I really didn’t mean to imply that my son had the right to be president. So, first off, I apologize for not being clear.
In the second case, if the father wanted to take the child to another country for upbringing, I do not think that would preclude someone from running for president legally. Lots of people are raised overseas (sometimes on military bases, sometimes when their parents are in jobs overseas) and I do not think that means they are necessarily un-American.
What about someone who went to school overseas for a short time (Bill Clinton/Oxford)? Or John Quincy Adams (son of a founder, and 6th president himself) who was educated and worked in Europe from the age of 11 until he was 18? Obviously people who were involved in the Revolution did not feel that education and time spent living abroad disqualified someone from being president.
I think, looking at all of the overseas postings so many of the founders enjoyed (John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson to name a few), to say that they were virulently anti-European is to look through a prism of our modern times and put modern notions on people whose world was very different.
Natural born either occurs at birth or it doesn’t. How about someone who was born in the US and lived overseas for a few years, even went to school overseas, and then ran for president when they were seventy. Do those years overseas count more than the rest of the life spent in the US?


300 posted on 04/22/2010 11:32:48 AM PDT by Rutabega (European 'intellectualism' has NOTHING on America's kick-a$$ism!)
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To: Rutabega

Totally disagree. Attending school and traveling is not the same as being raised there. Why do you think it was important to put in a 2nd requirement to have been a resident of the US for at least 14 years???

I honestly believe that what you are doing is jumping through all sorts of loopholes because you desperately want your son to be natural born, but he isn’t. So you are doing anything and everything you can to justify it even though the writings of our founding fathers, previous court cases, and even Congressman Bingham in 1866 proves your ideology to be completely wrong. You don’t have the right to just throw out the opinions of the founders and re-write the intent of the Constitution because you don’t like it.

Why its that important to you I have no idea. Your son has all the rights and privileges of citizenship that everyone else has, including running for any public office other than the oval one, and including the right to have 2/3 of his paycheck confiscated by our corrupted government.

None of your opinions change what the founders wrote on the subject and everything Obama has done in the past year proves them to have been right!!!!!!!!!!!


310 posted on 04/22/2010 11:53:41 AM PDT by conservativegramma (If Congress refuses to listen, its taxation without representation all over again)
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