Posted on 04/18/2010 3:03:57 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
I think folks need to be aware they have to take their batteries out . . . is that sufficient?
And, perhaps, duct tape their phone to a stray dog at some critical point.
“Paid workers, not slaves probably built the pyramids...”
In all probability, the pyramids of Giza pre-date Noah’s Flood. Not built by slave labor, especially not Israelite slave labor during their 400 year ‘sojourn’ in Egypt. The pyramids were there, and the Pharaohs ‘borrowed’ them.
The pyramids at Saqqara were probably attempts on the part of the Egyptians to ‘copy’ the Giza pyramids. The Step Pyramid is a crude attempt to copy those at Giza. I do not believe it was a first attempt to build a pyramid, but the first attempt on the part of Egyptians to build a pyramid (there were no ‘Egyptians’ when the Giza pyramids were built).
Btw, there is nothing ‘crude’ about the pyramids at Giza, especially the Great Pyramid’ and it likely has locational and positional significance.
Quix, does it really need to be promulgated by an oligarchy, or a conspiracy? Believe me, I feel the pull of these fascinating tidbits as much as the next guy...and before I looked into, for example, Giza/Orion, I was apt to bring it up in conversation as though it was fact. The astronomical connection sounded plausible, and for someone who grew up on a reading diet heavy with science fiction (and who still would jump at the chance to join the crew of the first ship to the stars!), it had a natural appeal.
In a similar vein, when I was younger I firmly believed we had been visited by non-terrestial beings. Now, I can only claim to be a UFO agnostic — much data, and many reports, remain seeminly inexplicable otherwise, but I’ve come to see that what I know (rather than believe or postulate) is insufficient, just too tenuous for me to say, definitively, whether we have or not. Do I read every UFO story eagerly, hoping that THIS one will be the final, incontrovertible proof I seek? To quote Sarah, “You betcha!” — because I would dearly love for it to be true. So these things can take on a life of their own, simply because they fulfill our wishes and desires for the universe to reach out and touch us.
Precisely////
These huge monuments, wonders of the worldm had huge labor bills.
The muslim community were and are immune to charges of slavery, even if they were white.
Some traditions just do not die.
I'm aware of such dynamics as a sociologist and a psychologist.
However, such dynamics are INSUFFICIENT to explain all the data points and puzzle pieces, in my experience.
BTW, HERE'S A GREAT LINK:
http://www.officialdisclosure.com/
ANOTHER BIG PUZZLE PIECE SUGGESTING that DISCLOSURE is closer.
OFFICIAL DISCLOSURE
Prepare for contactPosted: 8:20 am Eastern
By Donna Anderson
© 2010 Defender Publishing Group
In January, The Royal Society, the national academy of science of the UK and the Commonwealth hosted representatives from NASA, the European Space Agency and the UN Office for Outer Space Affairs, during its 350th anniversary celebration. The event offered some dizzying intellects in the featured discussion, "The Detection Of Extraterrestrial Life and the Consequences for Science and Society." Lord Martin Rees, President of the Royal Society and Astronomer Royal, announced that aliens may be "staring us in the face" in a form humans are unable to recognize. Other speakers used words like "overwhelming evidence" and "unprecedented proof" to signify how close we are to making irrefutable discovery of alien life. Some, like Simon Conway Morris, professor of evolutionary paleobiology at Cambridge University, worried that contact with these unknowns might not be a good thing. "Extra-terrestrials might not only resemble us but have our foibles, such as greed, violence and a tendency to exploit others' resources," he said. "And while aliens could come in peace they are quite as likely to be searching for somewhere to live, and to help themselves to water, minerals and fuel."
Vatican astronomers likewise weighed in on this question, "Are we alone in the Universe," and their top scholars hinted that discovery of alien life, including intelligent life, might be made in the near future. Father Jose Gabriel Funes in a long interview with the L'Osservatore Romano newspaper said there is a certain possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, and that such notion "doesn't contradict our faith." Another Vatican astronomer, Guy Consolmagno concluded that chances are better than not that mankind is facing a near-future discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence (Monsignor Corrado Balducci even went so far a few years ago to suggest that aliens were already interacting with earth and that some of the Vatican's leaders are aware of it).
"How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere," asked Funes. "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."
Muslim and Jewish leaders joined Funes to say their religion could accommodate an ET reality, while a scholar for the Russian Orthodoxy excluded the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence.
The question of how the world's political and religious communities would respond if suddenly faced with visitors from beyond is something world religions and even the US Government has studied. Paul Davies of The Atlantic Monthly wrote in 2003 that the discovery of even a single bacterium somewhere beyond Earth could force mankind to revise its understanding of who we are and where we fit into the cosmic scheme of things. Davies speculated that such a find could throw the human race into a spiritual identity crisis that could leave some gasping for faith in God.
Evidently things have changed since 2003. Recent polls show a majority of people believe ET disclosure would not challenge their faith in God, findings supported by a study at the University of California, Berkeley in 2008. A Reuters Ipsos poll of 23,000 adults in 22 countries taken in April, 2010 found similar responses, adding that more than 40 percent of people from India and China believe aliens are already here and are walking among us disguised as humans.
Professor Anthony Tambasco of Georgetown University not only believes the world is ready for ET, but responding to NASA's recent press releases about life potentially existing on Mars, said that if the discovery of life is substantiated, "it will not unravel traditional biblical convictions, but rather provide an opportunity to enlarge or broaden them."
The rest of the blurb is at the link.
There have been slaves for as long as there have been people. Ishmael was born of Haggar, Sarah’s handmaiden (slave). Btw, there were no muslim’s on earth when the Israelites were in Egypt.
Slaves in America were the result of there being muslim slave traders. And while the slave trade transportation was mostly English ships, the slave traders in Africa were blacks and/or muslims.
Sounds sort of like the vengeful, capricious, arbitrary and horny "gods" of old, men of renown.
True... but how many sere sucked up when the westerners went back to protect their Holy Lands, as one example?
Certainly fits Genesis 6 and The Book of Enoch.
Thx.
My pleasure.
“...when the westerners went back to protect their Holy Lands...”
Which time frame?
Take your pick. Guaranteed most keepers were killed but there would have been significant numbers taken for labor and warriors all throughout.
Islam has always needed gasoline for their projects whether building capital goods or militarily expanding their kingdoms. Islam has controlled slaving for the last 1400 years. Guaranteed that somewhere, with them, it is still alive today.
Sure America has been hung with the crime...
KRISTINN,
and anyone on the ping list in the D.C. area:
WOULD YOU OR ANYONE YOU KNOW who’d be a good reporter—and be willing to report back to FR
be able and willing to attend the 2010 X-CONFERENCE AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB MAY 7-9TH ???
—IN WHOLE OR IN PART—
I’m wondering if it might be a bit extra informative this year compared to past years—which have sometimes been somewhat dramatic in their own time-frame and context.
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/X-Conference2010/X-Conference2010.htm
Here’s an ATS thread with LOTS of critter and craft drawings per witnesses’ reports.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread525580/pg1
for home
Thank you, an excellent reference on slavery and the slave trade through the centuries. It is interesting that those who were responsible for slavery into the 20th century want ‘us’ to apologize. My great grandfather died in the Civil War fighting with the 16th Wisconsin Regiment. My family never owned nor supported slavery. I feel no need to apologize for what BO’s ancestors were a part of for so long.
I also find it interesting that this reference is supportive of the limited history I have known on the subject.
Tell you what, you can consider me uncomfortable and I'll consider you disturbed.
Thanks for the links, Quix — they look interesting!
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