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BYU student arrested for attempted kidnapping, assault
Daily Herald ^ | April 10, 2010 | Janice Peterson

Posted on 04/10/2010 11:18:35 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: greyfoxx39

Well, that’s one way to bypass Honor Code proceedings in making your involuntary exit from BYU . . .


21 posted on 04/10/2010 1:17:52 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Well, that’s one way to bypass Honor Code proceedings in making your involuntary exit from BYU . . .

Did you not see the last paragraph? "If it is determined that a person is a danger to the community, he or she may be banned from campus, but Jenkins said she does not know what decision will be made in this case."

22 posted on 04/10/2010 1:21:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObamaLand: Ignore the inner-city minority gangs, send the FBI after white Christian militia.)
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To: Dan(9698)
Yes, according to LDS Inc. it always has...
23 posted on 04/10/2010 1:25:40 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: muawiyah
Being a dutiful, lawabiding, God-fearing man he conveniently put his name and return address on the outside of the package and was easily caught.

Presumably he was confident that the Spirit had revealed to him that the bomb would go off as planned, thus obliterating the return address. The LDS "brethen" have repeatedly counseled about the unreliability of "hormonal revelations", but it never seems to sink in with the target audience.

Dates aren't that hard to find.

Well, I can see where creepy Taser-elder would have some trouble getting dates, even at date-crazed BYU. He'll probably have better luck in the slammer, where much of the population is more or less on the same wavelength he is.

24 posted on 04/10/2010 1:26:44 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: greyfoxx39

“If it is determined that a person is a danger to the community, he or she may be banned from campus, but Jenkins said she does not know what decision will be made in this case.”
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so the mormon so called “home teacher” gets a pass because he is a pesthood holder ???

I guess she’ll ber the one to get punished...

How dare she complain...


25 posted on 04/10/2010 1:28:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: GovernmentShrinker

If he has to carry a Taser with him, he must not be that appealing to women..


26 posted on 04/10/2010 1:29:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Well, I can see where creepy Taser-elder would have some trouble getting dates, even at date-crazed BYU. He'll probably have better luck in the slammer, where much of the population is more or less on the same wavelength he is.

Makes you wonder what this guy was like in high school...

27 posted on 04/10/2010 1:35:25 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObamaLand: Ignore the inner-city minority gangs, send the FBI after white Christian militia.)
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To: greyfoxx39

What you were saying is that “This is Provo!”


28 posted on 04/10/2010 1:38:41 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: greyfoxx39

Makes you wonder what this guy was like in high school...
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Did he carry a Taser to the Prom ???

“Danced with me or I’ll Taze you”

Later

“No officer, I said I would tease her...”


29 posted on 04/10/2010 1:39:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Dan(9698)
The first time he came to her apartment without a companion, she should have talked to the bishop about it and asked for a change of Home teachers.

I'm not LDS, but am very familiar with the LDS religion and culture. I'm surprised that at BYU, which is by design a sort of marriage market with thousands of eager-to-marry young adults organized into singles wards, that the issue of romantic attractions between home teachers and female teachees isn't pretty aggressively managed. Seems to me it should be absolutely routine for bishops to regularly remind all the members of their ward that anytime either a home teacher or a female teachee perceives any romantic attraction between the two, that he or she should immediately make a request for a change in assignment.

And dating between a home teacher and one of his teachees ought to be explicitly prohibited, with an instruction that if a home teacher wants to ask one of his teachees out on a date, he must first request and receive and change in the home teaching assignment. If such an instruction isn't in place, then it wouldn't be unusual for a home teacher to come to (not inside) a female teachee's apartment without a companion, for a social rather home teaching purpose, any more than it would be unusual for any random single man wanting a date to go alone to knock on the door of a young woman who lives in the same complex to ask her out. From the story here, it doesn't sound as if he actually did go inside her apartment -- just waited at her door until she arrived home, and then asked her to go to the laundry room. If such an instruction IS already in place, then this young lady certainly was remiss in not requesting a change of home teacher after the first time he asked her out on a date (as was he, for not requesting a change before asking, but he's obviously operating well beyond the "remiss" line).

30 posted on 04/10/2010 1:42:12 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: greyfoxx39

Probably a socially awkward geek, who got the tip-top grades and 100% early morning seminary attendance needed to get into BYU, but never had any more luck with girls than a few occasions where a girl reluctantly agree to dance with him at a ward youth dance, just to be polite.

He really does sound like he’s developed a serious mental disorder. In a reality-based world, there was no possible positive outcome to this plan, and it clearly was plan, not just a sudden misguided impulse. At some big secular universities, a guy *might* get away with something like this, even if he managed to rape the girl, but no way can anybody pull something like this at BYU and expect to continue as a student at the school, or in good standing with the Church, or without having charges pressed. Whatever he was thinking, it clearly wasn’t rational.


31 posted on 04/10/2010 1:50:36 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: driftdiver

Guns are not allowed in BYU student housing, even off campus. At least they weren’t when I lived there.


32 posted on 04/10/2010 1:59:11 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39

exactly.


33 posted on 04/10/2010 2:00:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39
Did you not see the last paragraph? "If it is determined that a person is a danger to the community, he or she may be banned from campus, but Jenkins said she does not know what decision will be made in this case."

This is a spokeswoman who is obviously not authorized to make any statements about what the final disposition of the case will be. Par for the course, at any large institution or company. BYU will get rid of him, because as an officially sectarian school, it can enforce religious requirements like requiring ecclesiastical endorsement (which obviously this psycho-elder isn't going to get, after assaulting his female home-teachee). But if you heard the same statement from a spokesperson at a secular university, it might well be because the school knows it may be forced to keep the psycho, under the ADA and related federal education laws. If this guy did the exact same thing at a secular university (even if he knew the young lady because they were both LDS and he'd been assigned as her home teacher), if his actions were found by a licensed psychiatrist to be have resulted from mental illness, and the psychiatrist says "I expect he'll be okay with these new meds I've prescribed for him", the school is screwed. They CAN'T throw him out. Refer to the Virginia Tech massacre if you've forgotten how this works.

34 posted on 04/10/2010 2:04:28 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: greyfoxx39; handmade

While it may not be OFFICIAL policy/doctrine, grey is right, the conditioning, especially at BYU approved housing is you always let your priesthood leaders in and if you don’t it is assumed you are breaking the honor code.

However, I suspect that she will be blamed for this since she should have ‘known better’ than to be alone with a member of the opposite sex. That is a no-no at BYU.

I remember having to have the front door open if I was with my fiance in the living room and my roomates were not home.


35 posted on 04/10/2010 2:04:36 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Dan(9698)

It is not uncommon for a family to request different Home Teachers. A reason does not have to be given.

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It did when I requested new home teachers at BYU. I was also refused by my Bishop even though one of my HT was an ex-boyfriend.


36 posted on 04/10/2010 2:06:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Dan(9698); greyfoxx39

It may not have been that way in YOUR experience but do not discount our experiences just because we are no longer LDS.

I have no ‘church’ to protect and no reason to lie.


37 posted on 04/10/2010 2:08:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39

why do I suspect that this guy will claim he had a ‘revelation’ that this woman was his ‘eternal mate’ but she wasn’t listening to the spirit enough to have the same revelation.


38 posted on 04/10/2010 2:12:36 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
no reason to lie.

Except to bash Mormons.

39 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:05 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

not even then. They do a great job of that on their own.

Unlike the LDS, I don’t believe in ‘lying for the Lord’. Don’t need too, but I do understand that the LDS NEED to demonize those who leave, lest they have to admit there might be some valid reason to leave Mormonism.


40 posted on 04/10/2010 2:14:43 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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