Posted on 03/16/2010 9:45:14 PM PDT by Chet 99
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Allison Walker's mother, Janice, has not left her daughter's bedside at Children's Hospital since Tuesday.
Allison and her friend were riding on their horses on a rural Hardin County back road when three pit bulls ran out of a front yard and attacked the horses.
"The pit bulls just ran out of the yard and attacked the horses. And the other little girl, she got off of her horse. But when Allison started to get off, her foot hung in the stirrup," said Allison's mother.
The fall left her daughter in a coma. The only thing standing between Allison and the pit bulls after she fell was her friend's dog, a chow, who came along for the ride. Walker is grateful. "The chow stayed between the girls and the horses long enough for them to get out and up out of the way," she said.
Walker has been communicating with her daughter through hand signals. "You know mama loves you, she squeezes my hand. You love mama? and she'll squeeze my hand," she said.
What angers Janice Walker is the lack of concern on the part of the owners of the pit bulls. "Why are they so heartless. They haven't even called me to check and see how my child is," she said.
It's Walker's faith that fuels her hope. "God ain't gonna take her now, she's gonna walk out of here," she said. The owners of the pit bulls, according to Walker, received only a citation for not controlling their animals. They are due in court April 6.
The attack on Walker's daughter has encouraged her to change animal control laws in Hardin County. "I'm gonna try my best to have a law, you know, we may have to make it Allison's Law," she said.
Oh, now thats a logical answer. NOT!
I went to your link, no one was even bitten. The dogs barked at the horses, which becomes an attack. The little girls instead of riding off, DISMOUNT in the presence of attacking dogs? Please. One little girl gets her foot caught in the stirrup. That can happen anywhere, like even in the corral.
Horseback riding is a dangerous sport. Even for adults. Little girls riding unsupervised down a country road ? I would never allow it.
7 posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:07:40 PM by Judith Anne (2012 Sarah Palin/Duncan Hunter 2012)
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More stupidity? Wasn't your earlier ones sufficient? A Jack Russell? Really? I'm going to avoid a run in with a pit bull. A Jack Russell I'm going to kick the sh!t out of (drop kicking comes to mind). Oh, and I wasn't "CALLED" on my scenerio of the mountain bike (which doesn't have a motor and is not a trail bike). But, you're not operating with enough wattage to understand the difference. So, since you want to play that game, provide the post number for when I stated that Pit Bulls should be put to death? You're not good at this - but, you've convinced yourself of your high position anyway. Since you cannot fathom the actual issue here - goodbye.
Really? In which post did I claim it was the little girl’s fault? In which did I claim it was her parents’ fault? In which did I castigate the little girl?
Incorrectly reading my posts, and falsely characterizing my arguments, is going to make you a loser every time.
In which post did I defend the dogs?
I did state that since no one was bitten, it could not be called an “attack.” Barking dogs are everywhere. The girls had three dogs of their own. I am amazed that with six dogs, NO ONE was bitten. Not even by the pit bulls. The girl had a dismount accident. It happens. She should have been wearing a helmet. She wasn’t.
But, you win the argument, because I give up talking to an idiot.
Name the actual issue here.
Good, because talking to yourself, and losing the argument is always a bad sign.
I did state that since no one was bitten, it could not be called an attack.
Really? You don't know much about the law, do you? If I walk up to someone and give them the impression I'm about to hit them have I committed an attack? No? According to you I have not. But, according to the law I have. I didn't hit the person, but, I've committed an attack non-the-less. This law also applies to dogs that are not under control of their owner. The dogs don't actually have to bite someone to have committed an attack. But, let's not let facts get in the way of your rantings.
See post #45 - bad memory too.
Thanks for the entertaining thread. I just love it when the ignorant try to argue on this topic.
My, my, you seem to know a lot about “attack” law.
The same law applies to humans attacks, and dogs attacks? ROFL!!!!! Is that a fact?
Honestly, you win. I’m not arguing with you anymore. It really is a waste of time to argue with idiots.
As stated before, it's good to stop arguing with yourself. And, recognition of this is the first step to recovery. Instead of attempting to ridicule me, why don't you do some research on dog attacks and the law. That would be a much better use of your time. Or, perhaps you're incapable of doing research?????
FYI - a pit bull comes charging in my direction and it gets a bullet to the brain - period.
I give up. Arguing with idiots is a waste of time.
Apparently you suffer from perseveration also. LOL.
No, but I don’t like to be insulted. And I will turn it back, if I can. I can understand a disagreement, but I cannot understand lying about my position, or about me. I have asked you repeatedly to substantiate your falsehoods with actual posts proving your point. You have persistently failed to do so, and have, instead, been insulting.
That doesn’t sound like something a soldier dad would do. Lots of soldiers, sailors, and marines in my family. None of them are liars. Or idiots.
Do you expect me to stop posting, and let you end the thread with an insult to me? If that is your expectation, fine, you have the chance now. Before I demand that you post the proof of your false statements about me, one more time. Since you haven’t provided the post numbers, I can only conclude that your statements are false.
Go ahead. Fail to correctly debate, and insult me again. I’ve already said you win. I have not called myself an idiot, and I am not arguing with myself. However, if the shoe fits, you may wear it.
Yeh, except most news people wouldn’t know the difference between a pit bull, a mastiff and their left elbow. Any large dog involved in an attack (unless it is very distinctive like a St Bernard) will be called a pit bull. Or some half wit (witness or not) will give ‘em a quote complaining about the dangerous pit bull, who is just as likely a yellow lab or a mutt with no more bull terrier in them than I have.
This story is about a dog attack but no child should be riding a horse without a helmet ever! Getting thrown from a horse is a lot different than falling off a bicycle or rollerblades. You can never be sure what will spook a horse no matter how many times they have been on a trail.
If her foot was caught in the stirrup it sounds like she landed flat on the back of her head. Had she had a helmet on there is a good chance she would have had a concussion.
Any dog, pitbull, lab, or yorkie is going to be territorial especially when other dogs are involved. My dogs will watch people walk down the street but lose it when they see other dogs.
I am extremely conscience about my dogs being outside in the yard. I never leave them out when I am not home and when I am I check on them constantly, they can escape. When I hear them barking I check on them immediately to find out what is going on. So yes the owner was apathetic but at the same time, the girl most likely could have been saved the seriousness of her injury by wearing a helmet.
Bwaaaaa, how can you be so cold hearted and factual? Can’t you see we’re trying to have our five minutes of panic here?
WHY DO YOU HATE KITTENS?
It is incumbent upon you to go back and check your posts where you laid blame at the feet of the girl victim in this story while completely missing the point the girl’s injuries were sustained as a direct result of three unrestrained pit bulls attacking the horse she was riding on. It isn’t my duty to point out where you went wrong, just to point it out. Lying? Go back and check your posts before you make that accusation.
Military service in my family dates back to the 1600’s. Seven members of my family served in Iraq. Again, zero point to this red herring with respect to the story and the issue in the story.
Zero for zero. You’ve got it going on.
The following table summarizes the number of pit bull-related fatalities in the United States from 2005-2009 as reported by news organizations:
Dog Bite-related Fatalities in the United States.[48] Year Total Involving pit bull-type dogs
Year Tot Pit Bulls
2005 28 16 (57%)
2006 30 16 (53%)
2007 35 20 (57%)
2008 23 15 (65%)
2009 31 14 (45%)
Additionally:
Mr. Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People News,[46] has compiled from press reports a log of dog attack deaths and severe bites in the United States and Canada from September 1982 through December 22, 2009. The study methodology counted attacks "by dogs of clearly identified breed type or ancestry, as designated by animal control officers or others with evident expertise, [that] have been kept as pets." Mr. Clifton acknowledges that the log "is by no means a complete list of fatal or otherwise serious dog attacks" since it excludes "dogs whose breed type may be uncertain, ...attacks by police dogs, guard dogs, and dogs trained specifically to fight...."[47]
The study found reports of 345 people killed by dogs over the 27-year period, of which "pit bull terrier" or mixes thereof were reportedly responsible for killing 159, or about 46 percent, of the people killed by dogs in the attacks identified in the study. The breed with the next-highest number of attributed fatalities was the Rottweiler and mixes thereof, with 70 fatalities or about 20 percent of the study-identified fatalities; in aggregate, pit bulls, rottweilers, and mixes thereof were involved in about 66% of the study-identified fatalities.[47]
Mr. Clifton has concluded that
"Temperament is not the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is relevant is actuarial risk. If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price."[47]
Being the case that the percentage of Pit Bulls and Pit Bull mixes relative to all dog breeds in the U.S. doesn't measure up to the percentages of attacks by these dogs (in other words - need to use smaller words here I believe - the percentage of Pit Bulls owned compared to Pit Bull deaths isn't equal at 46%), it would seem that this breed of dog does reprsent a higher degree of danger to the general public compared to other breeds of dogs. This fact alone lends credibility to the original poster's reasons for posting articles where Pit Bulls are involved in injury or death of a person. Keeping in mind, of course, that the data is only deaths of people by Pit Bulls and mixes that were verified, and does not include any information regarding people seriously injured and/or maimed for life by this breed.
...Cliftons report never mentions that there is a huge discrepancy between actual hospital records and press accounts of dog attacks --- between relatively objective data, in other words, and highly subjective reporting and editing with an eye to selling papers. The report fails to acknowledge that a number of factors are involved whenever any dog bites. The report includes statements about dog behavior which have no basis in science, and statements about breed-specific traits which bear no relation to the actual history, behavior or modern development of the breed being discussed [in this case, the German shepherd]. Cliftons concluding statements regarding the inevitability of attacks by certain dogs are impossible to substantiate, and as a result seem simply prejudiced and inflammatory.
1,182 severe attacks by pit bulls and pit mixes in the U.S. and Canada over a 24-year period [according to the Clifton statistics] works out to an average of just over 49 severe attacks by pit bulls and pit bull mixes in North America per year.
If Cliftons pit bull numbers are correct, and no more than 49 of the 6,000 or so hospitalizations due to severe dog bites in the U.S. each year are a result of pit bull bites or attacks, then pit bulls and pit mixes are responsible for less than one percent of those hospitalizations.
.82%. Eighty-two hundredths of a percent of hospitalizations due to dog bites in the U.S. each year are a result of pit bull bites or attacks, if the press has accurately represented the number of serious attacks by pit bulls and pit mixes.
There's lots more here: http://lassiegethelp.blogspot.com/2007/08/dangerous-breeds-dog-bite-statistics.html
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