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Flow Chart Explaining the 14th Amendment and Natural Born Citizen
2010-03-15 | silverbull8

Posted on 03/15/2010 5:39:17 PM PDT by BorderRaven

Flow Chart Explaining the 14th Amendment and Natural Born Citizen http://www.scribd.com/doc/28422369/USCitizen-14th-NBC


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 14th; amendment; born; certifigate; natural
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1 posted on 03/15/2010 5:39:18 PM PDT by BorderRaven
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To: BorderRaven

Here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/28422369/USCitizen-14th-NBC


2 posted on 03/15/2010 5:40:33 PM PDT by elpinta (DC, TSA: things that make me puke.)
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To: BorderRaven

Where?


3 posted on 03/15/2010 5:40:54 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: elpinta

Wasnt obama’s father from Kenya? So he’s not a natural born citizen. This means hugo chavez’s son could be president


4 posted on 03/15/2010 5:44:05 PM PDT by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: truthbetold11

Officially he was a citizen of the British Empire.
Who would have imagined that an Englishman would rule America?


5 posted on 03/15/2010 5:48:51 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: arthurus

British Nationaliry Act 1948. “Bambi” was BRITISH ar birth!


6 posted on 03/15/2010 5:56:11 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: truthbetold11

We need to remember that the Constitution is not too relevant to the powers that enthroned the one.


7 posted on 03/15/2010 6:07:48 PM PDT by elpinta (DC, TSA: things that make me puke.)
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To: WellyP
Art II section 3 para 3 does not cite natural born but a naturalized citizen eligible to be elected to the Senate.
8 posted on 03/15/2010 6:10:56 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: spookie

Only the President MUST be Natural Born!.

Any U.S. Citizen may become a Senator if the he/she meets the requirement of years of residing in the U.S.


9 posted on 03/15/2010 6:20:49 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: truthbetold11
Wasnt obama’s father from Kenya? So he’s not a natural born citizen.

Can you share where you found the statute or court case that determined that the father must be a US citizen?

This means hugo chavez’s son could be president

Was his son born in the US, and was his wife a US citizen?

10 posted on 03/15/2010 6:21:26 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: BorderRaven
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why isn't Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn't Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

11 posted on 03/15/2010 6:22:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: LucyT

ping...


12 posted on 03/15/2010 7:29:24 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: WellyP

“British Nationaliry Act 1948. “Bambi” was BRITISH ar birth!”

He may have been British. That’s not completely established. Barak Obama Sr. and Stanley Dunham’s marriage was probably bigamous. He already had a wife in Kenya.

If the US marriage was invalid, the the question is how does the British Nationality Act 1948 handle a bastard born to a UK citizen and a non-UK citizen outside the United Kingdom and it colonies?

Regardless, if born in Hawaii, Obama is an American by right, regardless of any other nation’s claim upon him.


13 posted on 03/15/2010 7:56:43 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
“Can you share where you found the statute or court case...”

The Constitution cannot be changed by statue. Dozens of court cases use the term. Some, including The Venus, Minor v. Happersett, Shanks v. Dupont, Dred Scott v. Sandford, Ex Parte Reynolds, Slaughter House Cases(see http://puzo1.blogspot.com “Obama - ... But not a Natural Born Citizen") .

In the beginning, 2008, there was ignorance. Now there is simply no alternative to the enormous number of reference to the accepted definition of natural born citizen. The only credible argument may have been posed by a long time FR contributor David who didn't argue the definition, but claimed that our legal aristocracy deemed the old definition passe, and their colleagues in the courts would never allow standing to question their more modern interpretation. To that hypothesis the people will have to respond.

The Becks, Hannitys, O’Riley’s are now employed by a Dubai-based holding corporation which boasts of its growing influence in imposing Sharia on the West - just as Obama’s cousin Odinga promised when Obama was campaigning for him in Kenya in 2006. We still have freedom of the press, albeit with a very active scrubbing campaign removing historical evidence as they are able, from Google/Youtube and lessor sites.

The theme they would like you to accept is that eligibility is a tired issue, now the playground of loonies. To be sure, there are some loonies, but they may well be plants by the left intending to dilute the clarity of the Constitution and both historical and natural law arguments which explain the still valid intentions by our founders to protect us from foreign influence. Obama is a foreigner. His dreams came from his father. His mother spent most of her career in the middle east, Indonesia, Pakistan, Kenya, married to Muslims and a citizen of Muslim countries. His cousin was educated by the KGB in East Germany. This is just the nature of "Prince" (from Vattel, Pufendorf, etc.) from whom our founders sought to protect us. He was born with foreign allegiance, and is guided by it still.

Take the time to read the Apuzzo summary on his web site. It is the basis of his historical and part of his legal argument before the courts, and is a masterpiece. The academics and corporate lawyers have too much to lose, and very few specialize in constitutional law. They would have lots of work to do to defend The Constitution, and doing so would probably cost them their jobs. Mr. Apuzzo is an example of why our country is great (we expect of from our military, so his client Cmdr. Kerchner is not a surprise). We need to see that this coup is terminated and the direct path to that end is by forcing our courts to protect the Constitution by obeying Article II Section 1 and removing Obama and every appointment, every law, every treaty with his name on it (or the name he used in this campaign).

14 posted on 03/15/2010 8:25:08 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
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Flow Chart Explaining the 14th Amendment and Natural Born Citizen

[Thanks, Seizethecarp.]

15 posted on 03/15/2010 8:33:00 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: GreenLanternCorps

The Child of ANY British Male was a British Citizen AT BIRTH. Marriage or place of birth has nothing to do with it.


16 posted on 03/15/2010 8:33:04 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.


17 posted on 03/15/2010 8:43:31 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Regardless, if born in Hawaii, Obama is an American by right, regardless of any other nation’s claim upon him.

And that makes him eligible to run for president how?

18 posted on 03/15/2010 8:48:50 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: arthurus
Officially he was a citizen of the British Empire.

Actually a subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

She was a lot younger, but she was Queen then.

19 posted on 03/15/2010 8:54:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: BorderRaven
Color me confused.

According to the last leg of your chart wherein both parents are US citizens & the child was born on US soil, you only advance the child of married parents as being eligible for president. May I ask your historical reference for this conclusion? Or was it an error on your part because a child born out of wedlock takes the nationality of the mother at birth if born on the soil of the mother's country. According to US & International law dating back to the founding, marriage was not a prerequisite to a child being eligible to be president as long as both parents were US citizens at the time of the child's birth.

20 posted on 03/15/2010 9:14:26 PM PDT by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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