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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
"Very true, but Obama doesn't care. Suppose the parliamentarian rules that the Cadillac change busts the budget, but Biden overrules. Can a VP be impeached for such an act, which seems illegal? "

I read an interview with the parliamentarian that Trent Lott fired back in 2001. He said, essentially, that we're in uncharted waters. The reporter was trying to get him to answer a bunch of hypotheticals, but he said it's really impossible to predict with any certainty what will happen because this Obamacare is so far removed from what the intended purposes of Reconciliation were.

I've noticed that his words have been cherry-picked by both the left and the right, each saying that this guy supports their position. He really doesn't

With respect to Biden's impeachment, it's an interesting question. The Reconciliation process is codified in law as is the so-called Byrd Rule (2 U.S.C. § 644). Having said that, the law refers to Congressional rules, which can be changed at anytime, so it becomes confusing. Furthermore, you'd actually have to find enough votes to impeach in the House, and that unlikely even if the GOP takes back the House in the fall.

32 posted on 03/03/2010 7:59:25 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Thanks.

Here is another question.

The senate Obamacare bill has not yet passed the house, and therefore could theoretically go though the bicameral conference committee.

Question: So if a reconciliation bill went to the senate and Rs objected, how could the parliamentarian rule on changes to a law which could still change in conference?

So I would argue that ramming reconciliation through the senate first is completely irrational, but what do I know?


33 posted on 03/03/2010 8:06:58 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: OldDeckHand
With respect to Biden's impeachment, it's an interesting question. The Reconciliation process is codified in law as is the so-called Byrd Rule (2 U.S.C. § 644). Having said that, the law refers to Congressional rules, which can be changed at anytime, so it becomes confusing. Furthermore, you'd actually have to find enough votes to impeach in the House, and that unlikely even if the GOP takes back the House in the fall.

Yeah, I guess it's not really illegal, but shamelessly overruling the parliamentarian seems to me far more despicable than the Lewinsky affair.

35 posted on 03/03/2010 8:15:37 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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