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Census in the Constitution: Why Jefferson, Madison and the Founders Enshrined the Census in our...
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Posted on 03/01/2010 2:07:55 PM PST by MsLady

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To: MsLady
Since Jefferson was in France at the time, I don't think he had much to do with the decision to have a census every ten years.

Since the House of Representatives was going to give states different numbers of representatives based on their population, it was necessary to determine the population, so a census was mandated...despite the ominous example of what happened when David took a census (2 Samuel 24).

21 posted on 03/01/2010 2:49:25 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MsLady

My net worth is between me and the IRS ONLY.


22 posted on 03/01/2010 2:51:50 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: moondoggie
"My net worth is between me and the IRS ONLY"

What? Your annual income is between you and the IRS, not your net worth.

23 posted on 03/01/2010 3:08:54 PM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I did look at it. I agree with the prior poster who said that "does not forbid" is not the same as "authorizes." As commonly happens, the courts have given Congress a blank check, rather than asserting the constitutional limits against congressional expansiveness.

There is the practical point, also made by a prior poster that no one has ever been prosecuted for failing to answer the "excess" questions. If that is so, the easy way to deal with inappropriate questions is simply not to answer them.

Congressman Billybob

Don't Tread On Me (9/12 photo and poster"

""I Was in the First Wave'"

24 posted on 03/01/2010 3:28:04 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks, John.


25 posted on 03/01/2010 3:36:37 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: MsLady

There are about 80 people living in my house. I think. Do you mean right this minute or people that have lived here over some time period? Does that include plants?

I’m not really sure, I get so confused about these hard questions.


26 posted on 03/01/2010 3:37:48 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Maverick68

ping


27 posted on 03/01/2010 3:38:56 PM PST by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: Pharmboy

With congresscritters comes largesse. They need the stats in order to see how much your vote will cost.


28 posted on 03/01/2010 3:39:59 PM PST by P.O.E. (Giant Gila Monster)
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To: MsLady

OK, if its legal for the Census to ask all those questions, does that mean I have to answer the questions?


29 posted on 03/01/2010 4:17:58 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

I just read some more posts. I think the Census Bureau is pulling our leg. It would appear what congress has a right to do, if I understand this correctly, is take a head count, in whatever way is the cheapest and easiest to do. That’s it.


30 posted on 03/01/2010 4:22:41 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

Thank you for your reply. I know that it is illegal to intentionally give incorrect answers to the census, but do I break the law by simply not answering questions about race, income, number of toilets, how many dogs I have, etc.


31 posted on 03/01/2010 4:25:11 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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I don’t think so. I’m not a lawyer, but, everything I’ve read says no. You only have to answer how many people live under your roof. Last census in 2000, that’s all I did. The most they can do is fine you $100 for not answering and $500 if you lie on the form. As far as I know, no one has ever been fined.
You’ll have to decide for yourself. As far as I’m concerned I’m only answering how many people live here.


32 posted on 03/01/2010 4:30:45 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

I guess, a lot of people are going follow Obama’s approach. At the summit last week he said he was willing to test the popularity of his healthcare takeover bill next November with the elections. People are going to test the Constitutionality of the census bureau asking certain questions.


33 posted on 03/01/2010 4:45:24 PM PST by orinoco
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To: ken21
my wife and i completed the name, address, sex, age etc but not the other stuff and mailed it in.

we have got nightly calls from the census bureau for at least a month.

I'm filling mine out the same way, none of the other stuff. Do you mind telling me what they say when they call and how you respond? I'd like to be prepared for the phone calls. Thanks!

34 posted on 03/02/2010 12:32:28 PM PST by mplsconservative (0bama = Epic Fail)
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To: MsLady

So....I just had my doorbell rang...by a lady handing me my Census Form.

So why does it take a “special person” to deliver it?

Heck....I’ve been sent at least 3 notices it was coming....

And I’ve seen T.V. commercials it’s coming....I don’t need a person handing it to me, and explaining what it’s about...I’m not stupid.( Can we still use that word? )

Why some poor moron ringing my doorbell to hand it to me?....Do they not trust the Post Office to deliver it? Is this one of the jobs that’s been created?

I quickly read it....and it’s totally racist!! ROFLOL!!!

I wrote in a black ( Probably a mistake...) MARKS A LOT....”One Person Lives Here” and mailed it in.

I figure I will probably get another moron at my front door....in the weeks ahead.


35 posted on 03/04/2010 12:11:41 PM PST by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: Osage Orange
I feel the same way, they must think we are all morons. Why are they hand delivering and why are the ads on tv wasting our hard earned money.

I would recommend though, that you be kind to the census people that come to your door, or you don't have to answer the door if you don't want to. They are just trying to earn a living and probably don't have a clue about the constitution. You might just be able to enlighten them, in a kind way. I am going to have a copy of the constitution handy with the part about the census highlighted.

36 posted on 03/04/2010 1:49:22 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
I was nice...

And so was she...

37 posted on 03/05/2010 6:03:47 PM PST by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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