[MSF BU]

...sounds like a little trip to Parris Island or Fort Benning is indicated for Junior. Send his lame ass into the military.

[ronniesgal]

My daughter joined the Navy for a 4 year hitch. She was 19, fairly responsible, pretty independant.
I thought her gig in the Navy would make her more grown up, learn some skills, get some discipline.
Did not really happen that way. Boot camp doesn’t last forever, and the services are pretty soft now.
Most of the folks she met were drinking-not paying bills- breaking rules and getting away with it!

[hinckley buzzard]

That was one unrecognized benefit to the draft. A lot of adolescents learned for the first time that the world may require them to do something they don't want to do, and daddy can't bail them out of it. Today, when the average age of video game players is 35, and the average number of years playing is 13, large numbers of idiot youts have no idea what it takes to keep all this in play and keep it going around.

[Finny]

...sounds like a little trip to Parris Island or Fort Benning is indicated for Junior. Send his lame ass into the military.

Good idea, except now that the military is co-ed, its "time to be a man, son; do it or get your ass kicked by other men" potential must be horrifically diluted. Today's "adult children" males don't even have the military to turn to. Way back when, Lee Marvin, the spoiled son of two wealthy New Yorkers, was such a trouble-maker as a teen that he got kicked out of all kinds of schools. He was incorrigible; no one knew how to handle him. He joined the Marines and GREW UP. Granted, it was during WWII, and that had to convert boys into men double-quick, but how likely would it have "cured" Marvin or any other directionless, angry young man if he'd joined up and had a bunch of 19-year-old girls in the mix right next to him?

Off topic, I know, but maybe relevant to the whole prob with today's inept Yutes.