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To: devane617
Quality is most certainly down. People in the industry tell me it is because Cuba is more of an economic basket case than ever, and in dire need of hard currency. Their largest customer is Spain, and their economy is in pretty bad shape right now, as well (though not as bad as Castro's Paradise).

Consequently, a lot of factories have shortened up the aging and curing process to move product out more quickly. That has caused the tobacco to have a harsher quality. Also, Cuba has lost many of its best tobacco experts over the years, and many of the great production experts and their experienced rollers have died off.

There are still some good brands out there, but stick to the "old line" names like Partagas, Romeo y Julieta, Punch, Hoyo de Monterrey, and H. Upmann. Forget about Cohibas - overpriced and most of them are fakes. Also, pay attention to the size of cigar you order. The smaller ones (robustos, Lonsdales, delicatos) are frequently better than the Churchills and "gordo" sizes.

The truth is that there are terrific cigars being produced now in the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua and Honduras, and I mean "World Class". Check them out.

10 posted on 02/24/2010 1:26:21 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
The smaller ones (robustos, Lonsdales, delicatos) are frequently better than the Churchills and "gordo" sizes.

I agree, my favorites are Partagas Serie D #4 and Punch Punch. Montecristo #2 is as close to perfection as you can get, but you need to leave them in the humidor for at least a year.

31 posted on 02/24/2010 4:13:25 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: andy58-in-nh; wagglebee
The problem with cuban cigars in communism; communists are terrible business men.

Ten or so years ago, in an effort to increase sales they began to create all these special releases, ELs, REs, etc. They're taking the best leaf and dramatically marking it up, and the regular lines are going to hell. Cohiba Esplendido is a classic example but almost every line is suffering. Of course don't even talk about how badly they're rolled.

Habanos SA needs to realize Las Vegas makes its money from quarter slots, not large whales, and follow their example with higher quality overall.

38 posted on 02/24/2010 5:02:15 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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