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To: ZX12R
I didn't believe this stuff either until the experiences I related in previous posts. I majored in physics and math, and have a degree in computer science. I am pretty smart and not easily fooled. If you had no results, then it probably had something to with a lack receptiveness maybe related to lack of belief. If people are just horsing around with that process, they are apt to get different results than those who earnestly try. It is also possible that some people do not have the ability to communicate in that fashion.

I find it interesting that strongly religious people reject this notion of communicating with something not physically present, yet they pray. I've always wondered what they imagine is happening when they pray. Perhaps they think nothing is actually happening. Something like a Ouija board does seem to provide a "reverse channel", using a process that must be similar to prayer. The rub is, you don't know the identity, intentions, or the power of the entity with which you communicate.

People must be capable of telepathic communications with each other. A person can "send" and "receive" to some outside entity, so it does stand to reason that the transceiver apparatus in people should be more general case than needed for these Ouija communications. I guess that is just a little out of reach.

I do know that I experienced that Ouija board with total disbelief at the outset. Only by observing and experiencing the feel of the pointing process did I alter my viewpoint. After a few years, observed results were considerably more sophisticated. Understanding that there is indeed a spiritual component to life is one positive aspect to these experiences. Extending this concept to general telepathy is more of a stretch; and, I didn’t pursue that in any manner.

It does not surprise me that you reject this whole idea out of hand. Few people are open-minded about spiritual matters. Religious people also reject this even though it tends to corroborate life-after-death notions and the existence of invisible entities that are so crucial to religious beliefs in the first place. I’ve always been a little on the fringe. You do not irritate me by assuming I’m feeding you a line of BS. My experiences reinforce my beliefs, and also confuse my beliefs. I have benefited from the experience, so I have no need of acceptance from anyone. I would like to converse with someone on this matter in order to enrich my own knowledge.

In more recent years I practiced auto writing. That is pretty weird. You can do this by yourself with nothing but pencil and piece of paper. In the end, it is an enormous waste of time. That is a waste of your life. If you do those things an unseen entity requests, you have abdicated your life even without actually being possessed. Ask a Catholic Priest of possession is imaginary.

125 posted on 02/04/2010 1:06:13 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
I didn't believe this stuff either until the experiences I related in previous posts. I majored in physics and math, and have a degree in computer science. I am pretty smart and not easily fooled.

First, I want you to know that I truly appreciate your lengthy post, and you obviously put some serious thought into it. Thank you.

I'm also glad you told me you majored in physics, because I want to ask some questions, and find out if you've asked them to yourself on these matters. But alas...dinner can't wait. Be back in a bit.
126 posted on 02/04/2010 2:19:56 PM PST by ZX12R
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To: GingisK
I don't think you are handing me a line of BS, and I don't think you are dumb. You could not have studied physics and computer science, and be dumb. I am not arguing against the spiritual word or religion, (even Einstein had a belief in God or the ancient one) just the idea that communicating with another realm is a common occurrence, if it happens at all. I do not find demons or ghosts behind every bush, puff of smoke, creepy noise or game board. In fact, I've never seen, heard, smelled, felt or tasted one of either, and I've been alive for 52 years.

A crude physics examination of the Ouija board: If you ask questions aloud, they take the form of pressure waves that radiate outwards and dissipate not very far off, so the spirits must be close by. Do non-living entities have ears? If they have anything that is sensitive to pressure waves, they are made of matter. There are only two things known in the entire universe, light and matter. If the entities are not material, they can't hear you. But if they did somehow, some mysterious way unknown to science, then their answers must propagate from their realm to ours. If so, what is the manner of propagation, and at what speed do they travel? If the entities can even affect you or the planchette, what is the source of the energy that is doing the work? Even if these questions sound silly, it is still fair to ask them and see if any scientific basis can be established first.

If you asked these types of questions yourself, concerning your experience with a Ouija board, did you give fair consideration to the idea that the most appropriate and believable explanation is that your imagination was getting the best of you? If you rejected that, why?

I'm not saying that physics is the complete answer of all things, in fact, many aspects of quantum mechanics is very spooky (literally) and quite unexplainable today. However, education, examination and information is strong armor to protect you from being easily and endlessly deceived, when the attraction to the unknown is exploited by people with unsavory intent or their ignorance merely wants company.
130 posted on 02/04/2010 3:54:28 PM PST by ZX12R
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