Human Evolution: Endogenous Retroviruses prove that humans and chimps share a common ancestor.

Gene ^ | 2000 Apr 18 | Lebedev, Y. B. et. al.

[divine_moment_of_facts]

LOL! They just won’t give up will they?

[GeorgeSaden]

LOL! They just won’t give up will they?

Well, they're not content to call something they don't understand "magic".

[paterfamilias]

Why are you posting a 10 year-old article?

This endogenous retrovirus data is old news.

And why are you LOL? Seems like straightforward science to me.

[GeorgeSaden]

Excellent work.

[donmeaker]

G-d created that DNA in different species to test your faith....

[mountainlion]

This does not prove anything to me. The one that invented the DNA created the monkey and the Human. Humans are distinct form all his creations on earth.

[paterfamilias]

“G-d created that DNA in different species to test your faith....”

I agree; I also believe that God created a rich evolutionary tapestry to test out intellects (one of His gifts to us) and to challenge our Free Will

[purpleporter]

LOL! They just won’t give up will they?
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With all due respect, comments like yours and other conservatives who laugh at evolution make me want to puke.

Why is it so hard to accept that we are RELATED to other primates? It is not saying that monkeys gave birth to us. It is stating that we are RELATED in our evolution.

Man, have you not ever gone to the zoo and just look at the chimps for a sustained amount of time and think to yourself, some of those actions are human-like?

I know evolution flies in the face of the bible, but lots of things in the old testament are not taken literally.

For example, “The Lord said to Moses, “Tell the Israelites: When a woman has conceived and gives birth to a boy, she shall be unclean for seven days, if she gives birth to a girl, she will be unclean for fourteen days.”
Leviticus 12:1, 12:5

Everyone knows the above is silly. Just as the story of Adam and Eve.

I believe in a higher power, just not the kind that dictates silly stories like the above.

Judi, non-religious, consevative

[lqcincinnatus]

Evolution, Global Warming = Political Science

If life begats life, how does non-life begat life?

[knarf]

Let's REALLY confound them ,,,, God SPOKE it all into existence with the exception of MAN.

Thus ... the common denominator is God.

God's DNA migrated to man while God was playing in the mud ... and His Word (which became flesh) also has DNA ... THEREFORE ... the common thread for all that is living is God.

Have at it FreepeRs ... I have no creation/evolution conflict .... but someone might be able to do something with that.

[raygunfan]

sounds like God used a good design for similar created types......

nothing ‘evolutionary’ at all.

but, they have to keep pushing their handwaving, just-so stories.....

[EnderWiggins]

"The one that invented the DNA created the monkey and the Human. Humans are distinct form all his creations on earth."

The DNA disagrees with you.

[EnderWiggins]

"Why are you posting a 10 year-old article?"

A few reasons:

1. Because it is an great article and worthy of discussion.

2. Because it shows that the proof for human and chimpanzee common ancestry is at least that old, and I'm very interested in how the creationists here try to account for it.

3. Because in my discussions on a couple other threads, it is clear that there are folks here who still have not heard about it.

I'm sure there are others.

[EnderWiggins]

"If life begats life, how does non-life begat life?"

It all depends on what you mean by "life." What most creationists think of when they say "life" is a mystical invention that we have no good reason to believe even exists.

But when scientists speak of "life," they generally do it with the fill understanding that the boundary between life and non-life is arbitrary. Our planet has on it things that are unambiguously living, things that are unambiguously non-living, and things that lie somewhere on a continuum in between.

For example... is a virus "living?" How about a bacterial spore? How about prions?

In short... there is no good reason to accept "life begats [sic] life" as an axiom. It is merely a general rule for which there are exceptions.

[mountainlion]

That is I think a straw argument. DNA does not agree or disagree with anything, It does what it is programed to do.

Where is another creature that can reason or put a man on the moon. Humans are distinct and separate.

[EnderWiggins]

It's not a "straw argument" at all. It is the observation that a serious alternative explanation had not been offered, and so no serious response was warranted.

But as to humans being separate and distinct, what exactly about human reason do you find qualitatively different from all other living things? Certainly we have quantitative gifts, but so do blue whales, cheetahs and bristlecone pines.

Do you honestly believe that other animals do not reason?

[Verginius Rufus]

This was published in 2000. I wish I had seen it sooner. All this time I thought the Democrats were insulting President George W. Bush when they likened him to a chimpanzee. Now I see it was meant as a compliment.

Democrats of an earlier time were scientific ignoramuses when they compared Abraham Lincoln to a baboon.

[mountainlion]

I haven't seen a whale on the moon or a monkey invent a Rubik cube.

[Oztrich Boy]

sounds like God used a good design for similar created types......

Endogenous retroviruses are not "good design", they are similar to spelling mistakes. If two pieces of writing have the same pattern of spelling mistakes, they are related. And you can take that to court.