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To: SunkenCiv

It has been many years since I have read a translation of Plato’s description of Atlantis. I was a Classics major back in the early 70’s.

One thing which seems impossible is that Atlantis was located beyond the “Pillars of Hercules” which is Gibraltar. I have never heard of any account of a civilization located on an island in the Atlantic except for Plato.

Just because Plato’s description is not accurate does not mean that it is totally made up. Just about all the old stories have a basis in fact. Theseus and the Minotaur for instance. Or maybe the Trojan War.

The only Islands in the Mediterranean would be Crete, Sardinia, Corsica, The Balearic’s Rhodes, and Cyprus. I guess you could also include Sicily but it is just barely and Island. Also the various Greek Islands such as Delos, Melos, Santorini etc.

Of all these, none has disappeared tho maybe Santorini has almost. Of all these Islands only Crete is known to have been both highly advanced and large enough to be a real power.

Just my guess but I suspect Plato’s version of Atlantis is most likely inspired by Crete.


23 posted on 01/08/2010 10:25:57 AM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

I forgot to include Malta.


24 posted on 01/08/2010 10:28:14 AM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog
If Plato's tale was just a construct (which obviously isn't unlikely) the model for it would have to be ancient Sparta -- which took Persian money to build a navy, won the Peloponnesian War, humiliated and subjugated Athens, and had a rigid elitist society such as that seen in Plato's Republic. Plato's mentor (that's what they called it back then) Socrates had been basically killed by the Athenians, and if memory serves, Plato wound up on the Committee appointed by the Spartans to run Athens after its defeat.
25 posted on 01/08/2010 5:15:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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As I recall the story, Solon was quoting an ancient Egyptian priest saying something like this: You Greeks are so young, this all happened 9,000 years ago. Given the time the priest was referring to, this puts the Atlantis events occurring around 12,000 years ago. Were they affected by the cosmic catastrophe of Firestone’s work, or the subsequent Younger Dryas climate change? IF so, then a place outside Gibraltar becomes more plausable.


37 posted on 01/10/2010 9:42:37 PM PST by gleeaikin
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