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Mike Leach Gives Interview to ESPN, Trainer refutes James
ESPN ^ | 01/01/2010 | ESPN

Posted on 01/01/2010 6:41:58 AM PST by rintense

Texas Tech head football athletic trainer Steve Pincock said Red Raiders receiver Adam James was placed in a "sports medicine garage" and media room as "big as a two-car garage" while recovering from a concussion, and was monitored by two trainers at all times.

Pincock's account of the incident, given in a statement to representatives of former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach, contradicts James' version of events that led to Leach being fired Wednesday.

James, who is the son of ESPN college football analyst Craig James, sustained a concussion on Dec. 16. He was examined the following day and told not to practice because of the injury and an elevated heart rate.

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To: rintense

[If Craig James was using a company phone to do his dirty work, ESPN is also implicated.]

this isn’t the same as a politician using a gov phone....ESPN benefited in the scoop......


101 posted on 01/01/2010 9:50:43 AM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: over3Owithabrain
Ohhh I see! Anyone who tells the truth about Baby James is putting their own careers on the line to LIE for their buddy Leach. No way they could just be wanting to set the record straight. On the other hand, Craig James is unbiased and impartially telling the truth about his son and so is his employer ESPN.

You are what we call a "non-reader." I didn't even intimate the above. It is clear that Leach has made a public campaign against the character of Adam James and is attempting to make the student's character the issue. It isn't the issue. I will stipulate that Adam James is a nancy-boy. Know what that changes in this situation? Nada.

102 posted on 01/01/2010 9:52:22 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

That’s a very simple one to answer. Adams had not been diagnosed with a concussion at the time of the shed incident, and Leach suspected the kid was a malingerer. The kid wanted playing time without putting in the effort.

Placing someone in a dark environment and having your medical staff check on him after a period of time is a pretty common way to check for concussion.


103 posted on 01/01/2010 9:53:34 AM PST by gallandro
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To: over3Owithabrain
Sir, or ma'am, or whatever you are: If cussing from coaches bothers you, better start a campaign to completely eliminate college AND pro sports.

More non-reading from you. I enjoy your rather non-thoughtful contributions.

Cussing doesn't bother me in college sports. Or pro. Or by my neighbor, as long as it's not around my 4-year-old.

104 posted on 01/01/2010 9:54:00 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass
You know what? You are completely void of this entire issue. If you had been following it, you'd know Leach made a statement directly after his firing addressing the college- not James. If this goes to court, you can damn well be sure the character of Adam James will be a focal point- as it should be.

Leach was right to go after both the University and the James family.

105 posted on 01/01/2010 9:58:03 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: the808bass
It is clear that Coach Leach has been on the phone getting everyone who likes him to come out and say Adam James is a problem kid.

You wrote the above. I read it. It clearly implies what I said you implied. How about you at least back up your original statements when they are brought up instead of lying about them and calling names? And Baby James is more than a Nancy-Boy as you say. He is a liar and he set out to get Leach fired. He used his dad who used his fame and position at ESPN to get that done. So once again, Baby James is a primary issue here and all your dancing around that doesn't change it.
106 posted on 01/01/2010 9:58:24 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: bfree; the808bass; rintense
The kid isn’t a “child”.

The salient point in the discussion. Leach got fired in the end over money. Cry-baby parent + disgruntled booster + wimpy administrator = screw job for the coach.

107 posted on 01/01/2010 9:58:37 AM PST by xone
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To: rintense

You nailed it, both on the James issue and the voidness of another poster!


108 posted on 01/01/2010 10:00:38 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: the808bass

[The fact is that Leach treated a kid with a diagnosed injury in a punitive fashion.]

how was he supposed to react to the little spoiled brat who was acting like a ROCK STAR at practice??? Leach was obviously fed up with the kids lack of “character”


109 posted on 01/01/2010 10:01:25 AM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: gallandro

James was diagnosed with a concussion on the 17th by Phy. When was he “monitored” in the shed?


110 posted on 01/01/2010 10:03:56 AM PST by the808bass
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To: over3Owithabrain
You wrote the above. I read it. It clearly implies what I said you implied. How about you at least back up your original statements when they are brought up instead of lying about them and calling names? And Baby James is more than a Nancy-Boy as you say. He is a liar and he set out to get Leach fired. He used his dad who used his fame and position at ESPN to get that done. So once again, Baby James is a primary issue here and all your dancing around that doesn't change it.

The fact that Leach is campaigning against "Baby James" doesn't mean that Adam James isn't a soft kid of low moral character. It also is irrelevant. Leach is running a PR campaign against the easiest target.

Leach has no one to blame but himself in this incident. But his pride doesn't allow him to see that.

111 posted on 01/01/2010 10:06:35 AM PST by the808bass
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To: rintense
If you had been following it, you'd know Leach made a statement directly after his firing addressing the college- not James. If this goes to court, you can damn well be sure the character of Adam James will be a focal point- as it should be.

Leach has been campaigning against Adam James since this came public. You think Harrell wasn't asked to write a letter about James? The position coaches?

James isn't the issue. He has a doctor's note. Leach only has his dumb actions.

112 posted on 01/01/2010 10:09:37 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

Again, you have no proof that Leach asked anyone to write letters, let alone the content of the letters. You simply won’t deal with facts.


113 posted on 01/01/2010 10:11:36 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: the808bass
I predict this will be settled out of court for roughly the amount of the bonus due on December 31.

Way too low. There is also the remaining part of the contract to contend with. I see Leach going for a jury trial and asking for punititve damages also. This will cost the school several million and maybe more.

114 posted on 01/01/2010 10:12:42 AM PST by bfree (The revolution is coming and it will be violent)
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To: rintense
Seriously? When did the coaches write the letters about James? Last January? Or right after the investigation started? Do you think coaches write a lot of letters to the administration? When did Harrell write his letter? To whom was it addressed? Does Harrell write a lot of letters? I'll bet it's the first letter he's written in a while.

There are certainly plenty of people who don't deal with facts on this thread.

Is cussing a kid out the standard protocol for dealing with a concussion? You haven't addressed that on any discussion of this issue. And you won't.

115 posted on 01/01/2010 10:19:14 AM PST by the808bass
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To: behzinlea

Every commander in the Army has two primary missions. Accomplish the mission and take care of the troops. All commanders also have a boss, and their people skills include dealing with that boss as well as others. Coach Leach’s boss apparently decided that his ends didn’t justify his means; that he accomplished his mission on the field at the expense of his troops. I say apparently because that is the conclusion I have come to. You can come to a different conclusion but just accept the fact that yours is just an opinion as is mine. Neither one of us has a monopoly on the truth, but neither will learn if we fail to listen to opposing points of view. Finally. Anyone who thinks a university chancellor would disrupt a huge money maker like Tech football in order to save $800,000 is naive.


116 posted on 01/01/2010 10:20:37 AM PST by csmusaret (Pelosi and Reid have controlled Congress for three years. This is their recession.)
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To: the808bass
The fact that Leach is campaigning against "Baby James" doesn't mean that Adam James isn't a soft kid of low moral character. It also is irrelevant.

I've got nothing else to say to you if you seriously think Baby James' character and actions are irrelevant. It is not, either in public opinion or more importantly legally.

You really are being incredibly obtuse. But hey it's an open forum have at it. I got nuthin' else to add.
117 posted on 01/01/2010 10:21:28 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: csmusaret

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-30/james-gang-helps-texas-tech-get-revenge-on-leach


118 posted on 01/01/2010 10:22:50 AM PST by gallandro
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To: csmusaret

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-12-30/james-gang-helps-texas-tech-get-revenge-on-leach


119 posted on 01/01/2010 10:22:54 AM PST by gallandro
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To: bfree
No. It's not "way too low." He was fired with cause.

He signed an employee code of conduct form when he was hired, like every university employee in the US. It includes a provision to obey the university directives of his superiors as long as they are lawful and connected to the execution of his job. If he gets a lot more money, it is not a triumph of justice.

120 posted on 01/01/2010 10:25:02 AM PST by the808bass
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