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Texas Tech fires coach Leach
espn ^ | 12/30/09 | espn

Posted on 12/30/2009 10:27:47 AM PST by rintense

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To: rintense
That's a direct quote from the university official. I'm not sure how it being on ESPN is indicative of anything. Do you dispute that Hance made that quote?

What mitigating facts do you have?

221 posted on 12/31/2009 7:32:59 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

I know what the official said. There’s a link on another thread to a local Lubbock station that has done far more factual reporting on this than ESPN has. Go check it out. It includes video of the ‘shed’ and the ‘electrical closet’.


222 posted on 12/31/2009 7:35:16 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: rintense

Kent Hance said that he tried bto help Leach but Leach was haed headed and refused to be helped and that he was insubordinate and that he was not going to tolerate any more of Leacch’s insubordination.
Hance is probably the most Conservative Chancellor of any major public University in the country.
I’ll go with him anytime over some fat assed dumb assed Coach.


223 posted on 12/31/2009 7:50:44 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: rintense

Whether he was forced to stand in the Hilton or a shed is immaterial. He faced punitive action for an injury. That’s unacceptable. No matter how much of a “nancy” he is on the field and at practice.


224 posted on 12/31/2009 8:01:34 AM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass
Funny, the doctors and trainers all supported the move. Shouldn't they also be fired too?

There is nothing wrong with a cool, dark place for someone suffering from effects of a concussion. Punitive? Because he couldn't go back to his dorm and miss practice? Because he wasn't on the field with the rest of the team and allowed to wear sunglasses on the sidelines? I swear you, ESPN and the James family are making it sound like the kid was being waterboarded. This same PC mentality is just sickening.

225 posted on 12/31/2009 8:16:32 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: BnBlFlag
Ok, so now its insubordination. The more TT changes their story, the more ammunition Leach has.

Again, if Hance had enough of his insubordination, why renew his contract?

226 posted on 12/31/2009 8:18:00 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: rintense

It was obviously punitive. Leach cussing him out before “following doctor’s orders” (speaking of laughable) and putting him in the shed is a pretty clear indication of that. I’m sure a biology prof at Tech could cuss out a student who was unable to take a test because of an injury with impunity and the university is just picking on ol’ Mike. Poor Mike.


227 posted on 12/31/2009 8:29:37 AM PST by the808bass
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you’re gonna believe Kent Hance, the west Texs democrat? And what was the problem?

Do you have a problem with singling out an athlete, because that happens everyday.

Do you have a problem with sending someone to a dark room to protect the concussion he got 2 weeks prior?

Do you have a problem with a player being sent to the place the offensive line goes to when it is hot?

Do you have a problem with three people including the team doctor looking after him?

What is apology worthy?


228 posted on 12/31/2009 9:26:35 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: BnBlFlag

Dumb coach, huh? He has bested Mack Brown, Bob Stoops, Jeff Tedford, Al Groh, Mike Gundy, Bo Pelini, Gary Pinkel, Bill Snyder and others.

Man, he must be real dumb to do that.

Or is he dumb because he got a Juris Doctor at Pepperdine Law?

Or, are you just a knee jerk reactionary liberal that takes the word of academia and the media without looking at facts?


229 posted on 12/31/2009 9:33:09 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: rintense

You should hear Colin Cowherd on ESPN radio. Talk about circling the wagons and acting the like ultimate moral authority.


230 posted on 12/31/2009 9:34:25 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: rintense
Again, if Hance had enough of his insubordination, why renew his contract?

The Dallas Morning News has obtained e-mails pertaining to Leach's contract renewal. It's obvious the administration renewed his contract due to public pressure. They were planning on firing him within the first year of the new deal and that's why they backloaded the contract with the $800,000 bonus due on Dec. 31.

231 posted on 12/31/2009 9:39:11 AM PST by TexasNative2000 (There's a reason the oath talks about defending the country from enemies both "foreign AND domestic")
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To: TexasNative2000

As Leach said, the truth will come out. Looks like it is already starting.


232 posted on 12/31/2009 10:17:05 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: Raider Sam

If there was nothing to the story, I highly doubt TT would have fired the coach. The horse is dead, you can let up now.


233 posted on 12/31/2009 10:42:04 AM PST by CSA Rebel
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To: rintense

If there was nothing to the story, I highly doubt TT would have fired the coach. The horse is dead, you can let up now.


234 posted on 12/31/2009 10:42:11 AM PST by CSA Rebel
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To: CSA Rebel

As soon as you stop beating yours.


235 posted on 12/31/2009 11:00:49 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: CSA Rebel

Since you dont like how the argument turned out, you are going to declare the story over?

Unless you are trying to be uninformed, you could easily find out the AD wanted Leach gone before this.


236 posted on 12/31/2009 11:42:45 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

He was dumb enough to get his fat ass fired.


237 posted on 12/31/2009 3:21:15 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

I’ve had a job where my boss wanted to fire me. Know what I did? I didn’t give them a good reason.


238 posted on 12/31/2009 4:25:40 PM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass

“I’ve had a job where my boss wanted to fire me. Know what I did? I didn’t give them a good reason.”

Exactly!


239 posted on 12/31/2009 6:33:06 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: the808bass
I'm not sure how it being on ESPN is indicative of anything.

Daddy Bear Craig has been all over ESPN telling his side of the story.

Truth be known, I bet Craig expected to "win" this battle without it going public and didn't count on the negative publicity.

Craig must have been unaware of how unpopular his son is with his teamates.

240 posted on 12/31/2009 6:50:14 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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