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To: muawiyah
Muawiyah wrote:
"Sapala (spelled several ways) is a popular Sa'ami name, as is Takala!
That name means "Fisher"

I do not see any Saami names. Takala is a Finnish name (picture). Taka = backside, rear  1  + locative suffix -la  =  backcountry .
Hovi =  court, Royal court .  2


Muawiyah wrote:
"BTW, people of substantial Sa'ami ancestrycan "prove it" with the x-factor DNA sequence on the female side, the y-chromosome on the father's side, and assorted genes lodged in Chromosome 6 that are peculiar to the Sa'ami, or otherwise known to have originated in that population. "

The Saami motif is U5b1b1.
Sami U5b falls into subclade U5b1b1. This subclade is present in the French, Croatian, Bosnian, Slovenian, Czech, Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, and Hungarian mtDNA pools and also in the Caucasus. However 38% of the Sami U5b1b1 mtDNAs have haplotype so far exclusive to the Sami, containing a transition at np 16148.[6]
Wikipedia

Haplogroup U5 and its subclades U5a and U5b form the highest population concentrations in the far north, in Sami, Finns, and Estonians,
Wikipedia

y-chromosome
e.g. Michael Likin 1785 Moorefield West Virginia  Map


61 posted on 09/12/2010 5:18:30 AM PDT by Viiksitimali
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To: Viiksitimali
I have no doubt that since the "big breakout" in the 900s the Sa'ami men have proved to be highly popular with the Finnish and other ladies eh!

Note, on Taala, the ones I've known are from the Sa'ami areas in Northern Sweden, Eastern Norway, and Lapland County. What we are talking about here is a case where there's been a fair amount of vocabulary slopover from one language to another.

Until the finding that the Sa'ami were likely the OLDEST population in the Fenno-Scandian peninsula many philologists were of the opinion that the various Sa'ami languages arose out of a common background with Finnish and Estonian.

Once it was determined that the Sa'ami were the OLDEST population in the peninsula, they've gravitated to analysis showing the linguistic flow to be from the Sa'ami languages to the FennoScandian group.

Sapala is the surname of a famous Kven from Norway who had a dog named Balto in Alaska. He and the dog became heros. Regarding the Kvens, they are recent arrivals in the Arctic ~ almost forgot about them ~ but they have a name for the region where they went to fish on the Arctic back during the centuries when they just went up seasonally. They called it "Ruija" which is incredible ~ I had not noticed that before.

This "ruija" is part of the name applicable to the bottom lands near Seymour, Columbus and North Vernon Indiana. Our word is Ama-roosia or Ama-ruija (so maybe you can tell me what the Ama means). The capital city of Lapland County in Finland, in Skolt, is very nearly the same word group but "backwards".

But going beyond Leonard Sappala, I've met many other Sappala surnamed people over the years and they were Sa'ami. Not ruling out a few of them selfidentifying as Norwegian or Finnish, but how about the Keppel family?

62 posted on 09/12/2010 11:35:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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