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What to Do if a Pitbull Attacks
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Posted on 12/11/2009 1:26:08 AM PST by Chet 99

What is the best thing to do if a pit bull — or several pit bulls — comes charging at you?

"Look at it as a dynamic event," advises Daniel Estep of the National Animal Control Association's training academy. "If the dog is 50 yards away and starts after you, if you can escape somewhere — inside a building, or on top of your car, or jump a fence — then that's probably the best thing to do. If the dog is closer than that, then that's not a good idea. In a footrace, you're going to lose.

"If the attack is imminent, try to shove something in his mouth, hopefully a nonbody part. If you've got a briefcase or a clipboard or even a coat, shove that at the dog. Most of the time, dogs are going to bite the first thing they get their teeth around. And then you can try to walk your way out of the situation.

"If that's not possible, feed him your nondominant arm. Arm, not hand. And let him grab onto that and try to get yourself out of the situation. The last thing you want to have happen is to be taken off your feet, because then it's much more difficult to protect yourself from serious injuries.

"If you get brought down, the best advice is to curl up into a ball and try to protect your belly and chest area. Cover your neck with your hands and loop your arm around so that it covers your face. When people roll up into this ball and don't move, oftentimes the dogs lose interest."

Women, too.


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To: familyop

You’ve never watched animals in a slaughter house, have you?

Believe me, they know something terrible is coming and they really freak out...especially the horses.

When I was young, our family would butcher 5 hogs every Thanksgiving day at my grandmother’s farm.
The first hog was the lucky one.
It died blissfully oblivious with its snout in the trough.

The other 4 would stop eating and start screaming as soon as they saw the first one hit the ground.

[my uncle got really good at squeezing off the other 4 really fast rounds]

After a couple years of that, I started waiting until I heard all 5 shots and *then* walked across the field to help with the butchering.

There’s a reason that people who work the killing lines get “weird” after a few years.


41 posted on 12/11/2009 4:59:25 AM PST by Salamander (I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.....)
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To: wardaddy

Pyhtons are easily outrun, and in general do not climb the fences around their yard, nor break the chain around their neck.

On the plus side, they do nor bark at night or pee on the the floor or chew up your shoes.

Just sayin’


42 posted on 12/11/2009 6:04:29 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Rennes Templar

I rode my bike a lot around the same age.

I carried an air horn. Let the dog get about 3 feet from your leg and blast away.

Dog would usually do a backflip trying to escape.

I had a friend who used the ammonia trick.


43 posted on 12/11/2009 6:28:15 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: All

Dogs have thick skulls and head shots are not guaranteed. Been on several calls where my partner had to shoot a dog, and every time the dog ran off and expired but never dropped dead. We use 230gr JHP’s as well.

If the unavoidable happens and they latch onto your non-shoooting arm, try to get a contact shot underneath the throat so the round(s) penetrate the brain cavity from underneath.

Additional tactic if not armed is to gouge eyes or use a technique hippies used on police dogs during the Vietnam years. Most dogs have a surplus of skin around the throat and neck. Grab that with both hands and start spinning around to get the dog dizzy. Then let go.


44 posted on 12/11/2009 6:34:34 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: Does so

Dachsunds were ratters once...I can see that.


45 posted on 12/11/2009 9:03:37 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: PghBaldy

Animals have instincts for sensing and avoiding danger to some extent. This is a mechanism for avoiding pain, which they understand, not a conscious awareness of avoiding death, which they do not understand.


46 posted on 12/11/2009 10:34:33 AM PST by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: Salamander
See comment #34.


47 posted on 12/11/2009 12:26:14 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Molon Labbie

With a round travelling perpendicular to the skull surface, a well placed .22 LR (just above and between the eyes from the top or between the eye and the ear from the side) will instantly stop dogs, large bulls—just about anything on this continent. The problem in a defense situation is placing the round well enough with a line of fire that is not too oblique to the skull surface (too oblique: problem for many who shot bears having more to do with how bears held their heads when attentive).

I’ve done head shots to dogs on more than one occasion where dogs were chewing on livestock and to livestock on many occasions. As for more practical defense kills on dangerous animals, good thoracic hits with heavy bullets won’t let dangerous animals go farther than a few steps, although we want to make sure that there are no bystanders behind the animal (anyone beyond right angles, left and right). Heavy, flat nosed bullets with large meplats at less than 1100 fps, BTW, are more predictable in flight than, say, light HPs at over 1200 fps. But you know, so many people and ammo manufacturers want to be in style.

IMO, we should all (police and anyone who contemplates defense) have more training in ballistics, anatomies and wound analyses. When firearms are not practical (e.g., dog latched onto victim), other tools and methods can work well—and again only with good knowledge of anatomy and spatial-visual coordination.


48 posted on 12/11/2009 1:19:11 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: muir_redwoods

The question is do you apply the barrel with the full choke or the one with the modified choke.


49 posted on 12/11/2009 1:27:04 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: prisoner6

right now Im carrying a smith and wesson model 642 38 cal snubby revolver loaded with five rounds of glaser safety slugs.

That is a controlled expansion round and tends to dump all its energy into the target, making a nasty wound that causes exanguination.

(I hope I spelled that right)

In other words, the Glaser projectile dumps all it’s energy and the bullet does not exit the target. I am reminded of the story about the shopkeeper in NYC who was armed with a 380 walther PPKs loaded with Glaser blue.

He shot a robber with it. When the medical examiner arrived on scene, he was convinced the shooter shot the bad guy with a 12 ga shotgun, not just a 380.


50 posted on 12/11/2009 1:30:06 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Salamander
Yes, it’s hard to imagine actually doing that but 35 years of working with rescue Dobermans with unknown issues tends to give you nerves of steel.

Whoever said to offer it your “non-dominant arm to chew on” is an idiot.

Correct on both points. I can't imagine ramming my fist down an angry dog's throat. And that person is an idiot.

51 posted on 12/11/2009 1:32:39 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: wardaddy

If the advise is good, it doesn’t matter who gives it. I read someplace that shoving your hand down their throat is effective to stop them also...but never want to be in the situation to try it out....


52 posted on 12/11/2009 1:42:48 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Cyber Liberty

During my 40+ years outside working I always carried a “Chew Toy” for the occasional belligerent animals.These come in many forms usually things with weight and the capabilities of being swung at a target. Sometimes an ordinary clip board has worked but once a hammer did cost my company the price of a new dog.


53 posted on 12/11/2009 1:45:03 PM PST by GOYAKLA
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To: Salamander
You sure are right on that score...animals are smarter than some people think...everything has a self defense gene. If it were not so, the species would die out quick..

Some animals have it by nature...the first time I heard a hawk screeching overhead when I had the farm, all my chickens and turkeys hid. Except 2 tom turkeys and it was the only time I saw them turn their heads sideways to look up. Its instinctive..The turkey hens were under their building. (it was up on cememt blocks to keep the floor from rotting out)

They also seem to know when the danger had passed and came out of the barns and high grass where they were hiding..

54 posted on 12/11/2009 1:51:28 PM PST by goat granny
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To: bobby cep

Now that is witty, and funny...thanks for the chuckle


55 posted on 12/11/2009 1:55:44 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Moonman62; Salamander

Lot of people that have house plants talk to them...its the carbon dioxide that you exhale that plants love...


56 posted on 12/11/2009 1:59:10 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Rennes Templar
***We have to remember animals dont know they’re going to die.***

It that the reason we always see animals running from a pack of lions on the hunt...they do it just for the fun of running.....

57 posted on 12/11/2009 2:01:54 PM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

They’re using their survival instincts; they are running to avoid getting caught, they don’t know they are going to die.


58 posted on 12/11/2009 2:07:00 PM PST by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: Rennes Templar
Why would they need survival instinct if they had no concept of being eaten, which would lead to their death...
59 posted on 12/11/2009 2:09:17 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Chet 99
Best thing to do if the dog is on you is to grab it's front legs and push them out as hard as you can. When you dislocate their shoulders it breaks a major blood vessel and they bleed out in seconds. That is short of a knife in the chest or shooting them. If you knife one try to get the neck or the or from the top and stab a lung. Hearts are good but often herd to get at in a frontal attack. Of course you can always just shoot your friend in the knee and run. Works in bear attacks too.

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60 posted on 12/11/2009 2:14:49 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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