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Why Apple succeeds, and always will
Betanews ^ | Wednesday, December 9, 2009 | Joe Wilcox

Posted on 12/09/2009 6:29:26 PM PST by Star Traveler

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1 posted on 12/09/2009 6:29:27 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Swordmaker

Why Apple succeeds, and always will


2 posted on 12/09/2009 6:30:38 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Some previous Apple articles posted on Free Republic...
at least by Star Traveler


3 posted on 12/09/2009 6:32:08 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Some more previous Apple articles posted on Free Republic...
these by Swordmaker


4 posted on 12/09/2009 6:32:49 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Dude, you work for Apple?

Please Demand AT&T allow Tethering NOW!!!


5 posted on 12/09/2009 6:34:11 PM PST by VastRWCon (Drill Baby Drill - Sarah Palin 2012)
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Best to not forget the agony, sweat, and tears of engineering the Apple products to please the consumer more than the competitors’. Do you know what it is like to work for managers who say “Not good enough, yet” to you, every day?


6 posted on 12/09/2009 6:34:54 PM PST by Rapscallion (Photosynthesis is free....Cap and Trade is a fraud.)
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Why Apple succeeds, and always will


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7 posted on 12/09/2009 7:22:33 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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You were saying ...

Dude, you work for Apple?

Nope, just a Macintosh user since way back when... :-)


Please Demand AT&T allow Tethering NOW!!!

I think it would be good to have that, too. And apparently they are going to. But, I also see that there are problems with the amount of usage that AT&T is getting from iPhone users, so AT&T really needs to beef up their network. And I also suspect that the price tag for tethering will be significant, mainly because it's going to put a heavy burden on their network.

So, I would be ready for that price tag, too...

8 posted on 12/09/2009 7:41:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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You were saying ...

Best to not forget the agony, sweat, and tears of engineering the Apple products to please the consumer more than the competitors’. Do you know what it is like to work for managers who say “Not good enough, yet” to you, every day?

I can appreciate that, too... but it is a price to pay for producing the kinds of products that have been as successful as they have been.

I hear it's hell to work for Steve Jobs, but no one would want Jobs to turn into a wimp, just to be nicer to the employees -- and change the way things are done, which may affect the quality of the products coming out of Apple.

9 posted on 12/09/2009 7:44:19 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Why Apple succeeds, and always will

Because there are enough of these people out there who will buy anything white, shiny, has an Apple logo on it, and hears Steve Jobs tell them they can't live without it.

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(Waiting to be MacFlamed...)

10 posted on 12/09/2009 7:46:06 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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You were saying ...

Because there are enough of these people out there who will buy anything white, shiny, has an Apple logo on it, and hears Steve Jobs tell them they can't live without it.

Well..., that's what happens when a company knows what the consumer wants and makes the best out there...

That is the "name of the game" -- for "business" -- which is to give the consumer what they want, and the consumer gives you "money" which is what "business" is all about... :-) Ain't it great living in a capitalist, free-enterprise system...

11 posted on 12/09/2009 7:57:46 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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I don’t care, unless you’re talking about God, it is totally stupid to believe some company or some person ‘always will’ be something wonderful or unblemished.

We’re already seeing “It could never happen in America” be shown to be a lie.


12 posted on 12/09/2009 8:00:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Because there are enough of these people out there who will buy anything white, shiny, has an Apple logo on it, and hears Steve Jobs tell them they can't live without it.

Hmmmmm.... strange. My 24" iMac has an Apple logo on it, and part of it is shiny... but only the keys on the keyboard are white... it's mostly black and aluminum. I guess your FUD and ad hominem insults are way out of date.

13 posted on 12/09/2009 8:00:35 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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Yeah, when you insult a good number of FReepers you will be flamed. But I won’t judge how you want to spend your Wednesday night.


14 posted on 12/09/2009 8:06:17 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
You were saying ...

I don’t care, unless you’re talking about God, it is totally stupid to believe some company or some person ‘always will’ be something wonderful or unblemished.

At their present performance for over the last decade and with Steve Jobs (one of the founders of the company) showing the company what needed to be done... I would say that they're demonstrating that very thing. And that is what the writer is talking about.

Playing "other companies games" is not the way Apple does things, as the article is saying. And that's precisely why they're "winning" (which means winning the consumers to buy their products).

And I don't have any problems at all with that, because that means when a company, such as Apple, is successful like that -- it's because the people who boy their products are pleased with those products.

That's the situation with Apple. As long as they keep that up, they'll be fine.

And we're talking about "business" and a "company" here, not a religion and not about God. I do know the difference between the two... :-)


We’re already seeing “It could never happen in America” be shown to be a lie.

Just because things are going wrong in a lot of other areas doesn't mean that absolutely everything and every company and every person is going wrong, too... :-)

15 posted on 12/09/2009 8:14:32 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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You would be foolish to say Apple will never get it wrong just because Jobs is doing a good job now. We’ve had great companies run by great men in the beginning, only to have future leaders run them into the ground.

“If they keep it up”. That’s a big if. If anything is certain, people who take over companies that are ‘doing well’ but have little to do with them getting there in the first place, take for granted what it took to get them there in the first place, and get greedy and stupid.

The founders of a company put everything into it to make it big. The next wave of people aren’t as vested but make expansions but are more concerned about maintaining. the third removed executives are even more removed from the founders and it’s just a job and stock options and such. They’re more concerned about dividends to pised off shreholders, domestic partner benefits, and if everyone’s taken the latest sexual harassment class.

You see the same behavior in the families that have amassed large fortunes, you see it in monarchies, you see it in unions, you see it in certain religious groups. You see it in all sorts of business. The ones who come down the road after the founders rarely wnat to put everything they have on the line and into the business. They rarely take the same kinds of risk or have the same kind of skin in the game. It all starts into maintenance and preservation and status-quo-ism as you mention, and the further away you get from the initial founder, the more it sets in.

As far as I read it, Microsoft is one step ahead of Apple. Gates is still there but not running day-to-day anymore. Jobs is THE FOUNDER (only remaining founder) at Apple and once he’s gone, they will most likely run into the same problem most other companies do. Stagnation and maintenance mode.


16 posted on 12/09/2009 8:26:39 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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You were saying ...

You would be foolish to say Apple will never get it wrong just because Jobs is doing a good job now. We’ve had great companies run by great men in the beginning, only to have future leaders run them into the ground.

Well, I've done quite a bit of "reading" over the last 25 years about Apple and Macintosh and how they were either "beleaguered" or "going out of business soon" or would never increase market share and on and on.

These were so-called business pundits and/or tech pundits who -- apparently -- were a whole lot more stupid than the consumers who were buying the products that Apple Computer (and now just "Apple") made.

And when we see today, that Apple has no debt, has billions of dollars (that's with a "B" for "billion"), is expanding the marketshare, has 70-75% of the iPod business in the market, is the largest retailer of music in the U.S., has the largest marketshare of online music sales in the world, brought a radically new and different type of phone to market from never having it before and in the face of almost all "pundits" saying that they were going to fail -- I have to say, after all that, after 25 years of seeing what has gone on -- that if anyone were to fail in the future -- it would be long after I'm dead and gone and basically don't care any more... :-)

As it stands now and has stood for over a decade of excellent performance and great success with the consumer -- I don't have any doubts about how Apple is going to do in the future.

17 posted on 12/09/2009 8:49:20 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Well if you’ve got shares of Apple then I hope you’re right.

But even Apple sells shares with the caveat “past performance doesn’t equal future results.”

Nothing is ever certain, with the exception of death, taxes and Christ coming back to fix this place we’ve messed up.


18 posted on 12/09/2009 9:01:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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You were saying ...

Well if you’ve got shares of Apple then I hope you’re right.

No, I don't and haven't in the past, either. I'm only interested in Apple from the standpoint of the products that they make and me being a customer of theirs and having several of their products, and having had their products for the last 25 years.

19 posted on 12/09/2009 9:15:00 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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As a Mac user since, oh, the Mac Pro and programming the Mac since Lightspeed C, here’s what I have to say about Apple’s business prospects:

They’d better keep Steve alive through whatever means necessary, because when Jobs isn’t at the company, their product innovation, quality and indeed their internal employee enthusiasm goes downhill - quickly. Their board has put in such idiots as Scully (a former soda pop exec) and Spindler. A future without Jobs does not look promising given the Apple board’s history.


20 posted on 12/09/2009 10:21:11 PM PST by NVDave
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