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To: Star Traveler

I am sure that someone could eventually pin it down. But, the point of the matter is that no one can definitively tell you when this baby, born to an out of wedlock mother and his carpenter father, was exactly.

Think about it in our context. A baby is born behind a garage in a shed, because its homeless parents cannot afford rent.

Two thousand years from now will they be able to find a birth certificate? They would know that it was born during the reign of Obama. That will narrow it down to four years.....


34 posted on 12/09/2009 1:42:06 PM PST by Vermont Lt (My wife reads my posts. In case the FBI shows up, we will have cookies.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Two thousand years from now will they be able to find a birth certificate? They would know that it was born during the reign of Obama. That will narrow it down to four years.....

Hell we can't even find Obama's.

:D

35 posted on 12/09/2009 1:45:06 PM PST by NeoCaveman (you betcha)
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To: Vermont Lt
You were saying ...

I am sure that someone could eventually pin it down. But, the point of the matter is that no one can definitively tell you when this baby, born to an out of wedlock mother and his carpenter father, was exactly.

Well, unless there is some undiscovered and new information that we do not have right now, I don't know how anyone could pin it down any more than it is right now. We do have a lot of clues as to the time of the year, but I don't think that's ever going to get us close to a particular day of the year.

And there are reasons why God left some details out, while including other details, in the Bible.


Think about it in our context. A baby is born behind a garage in a shed, because its homeless parents cannot afford rent.

I don't think that those parents were ever really "homeless" though. I mean, being unable to find location accommodations on a trip that one is making is hardly being homeless... :-)

They had a home before they left on the trip and they had a home after they made the trip. The crowded "inn conditions" at that particular time, hardly makes one homeless. They were unable to come up with the kind of accommodations that they had sought at the time, as that was all they could find, but to say that they were homeless is to depict them in a light that they really weren't in, in their situation.

But, aside from the issue of "homeless," it wouldn't bear on the date of the Messiah of Israel's birth.

It seems fairly clear to me that the general time period of the 25th of Kislev being the time of conception, would fit very well what we know of the situation.

36 posted on 12/09/2009 2:38:55 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Vermont Lt
‘A baby is born behind a garage in a shed, because its homeless parents cannot afford rent.’

In order for for Joseph and Mary to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem required a SUV. They at least had a donkey, camel etc. for the travel.

Those were not cheap. Joseph had more money than people let on.

38 posted on 12/09/2009 3:38:26 PM PST by BGHater (America is a Kakistocracy.)
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