[ansel12]

How, in good conscience, could I, you, or anyone else, tell some young man to enlist under those conditions?

I sure can and I do, and I always have, my earlier posts cover that clearly.

When young men put off their military service they are rarely in a position years later to want to quit their jobs leave their family and mortgage and head for 3 or 4 years of service, it isn't exactly like making up a college degree on line or at night classes.

Something that cannot be explained or easily reversed is when so called conservatives try to keep their sons from serving.

Let's fight to keep the recruiters off campus, HEY HEY HO HO baby killers have to go.

[fr_freak]

When young men put off their military service they are rarely in a position years later to want to quit their jobs leave their family and mortgage and head for 3 or 4 years of service, it isn't exactly like making up a college degree on line or at night classes...

Let's fight to keep the recruiters off campus, HEY HEY HO HO baby killers have to go.

1) Young men aren't generally getting married until late twenties, even thirties these days. Waiting until 22 to go into the service isn't going to stop anything.

2) I haven't seen a single post on this thread advocate kicking recruiters off campus, or any other such asinine thing. People here are talking about whether Beck was right to advise his nephew not to enlist now, and whether they would give the same advice. That is a far cry from the ridiculous hyperbole that you are engaging in.

Going into the service is something each man should decide for himself, and he should decide that carefully, because you could end up giving your life. When I went in, I knew that, but I was happy to take that risk because I believed in my country and I had faith in the leadership at the time, as flawed as it might have been (Bush Sr.). If I were young enough to be considering enlistment now, I don't know if I would do it, because I'll be damned if I'd want to die in Afghanistan because the ROE says I can't shoot back and an anti-American CIC won't OK the resources or tactics to win. I wouldn't be serving my country to die under such circumstances, and neither would anyone else.