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To: Buck W.; metmom; ejonesie22; Tennessee Nana
You’re putting lipstick on a pig! Another poster here referred to you as a scientist—perhaps (s)he meant cosmetician.

Ah, I see you are projecting again. I am secure in who I am and what I do for a living. But that doesn't change the issue at all. You are forcing externally, an interpretation upon a bible passage that just 1) doesn't exist and 2) you are wrong about anyway given the context of the description.

No, you are still augmenting scripture with interpretation. I am not arguing with the fact that a circular circumference divided by the corresponding diameter equals pi. The bible, though, with no further information says that the circ over the diam equals 3.

Being pedantic may impress some, but argumentum ad nauseam doesn't prove you point. Given an approximately 4 inch wide lip - where does the passage say the 10 cubit measurement was made ?????????? Until you do, you claim is not valid. However, the purplemath people had no trouble understanding the meaning - and came out with a decent estimation of pi given the variances in cubits and hands.

Interpertation - LOL, you are interpreting that the bowl had a razor thin lip = absent any supporting documentation. I've already gave you a nice clue in the definition of the Hebrew used - but no interpretation necessary, just good biblical scholarship. What requires interpretation is where you get YOUR values from.

One must interpret the scene to provide the data necessary to fix it. The scripture is not literally inerrant on its own.

Ever the atheistically oriented skeptic - still digging away. Since the information is already present in the scripture passage to describe the bowl, and a non-Christian organization such as purplemath can readily understand what is being described - that is not "interpretation" and the passage description is pretty straight forward. Perhaps you need to look up the meaning of "interpretation' and figure out where you departed from the trail. Nor is it allegory, again, since the Hebrew words provide specific definitions and uses AND a literal representation of the presented data fits the understanding and practices of the era AND COMES OUT WITH THE CORRECT RESULT, then it is inerrant on this point. And YOU rejecting the context, Hebrew usage and simple comprehensive understanding of what is being described in accordance with technology of the era still want to trot out and say - oh pi=3, is so pitiful. Occams razor comes to mind here which makes more sense -

Your claim that the text say pi=3 while ignoring the other information present in the passage or_

That the passage, while not trying to claim to present the value of pi, is correct in its statement based upon the description given, the Hebrew words used and the simplicity that it does show that pi=3.14 given assumptions used by purple math.

I'd say you are bailing you boat out with a bottomless bucket Bucky boy.

Really, I’m a Christian and I understand this. Can’t you?

Still waiting to see what you base your claim to being a Christian on.

842 posted on 11/28/2009 3:39:05 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

“Given an approximately 4 inch wide lip - where does the passage say the 10 cubit measurement was made ?????????? “

Precisely—it doesn’t!

Your journey of self discovery has begun! The biblically-derived value of pi can only be correct with further interpretation and context!

Come on—you’re not really a scientist, are you? I mean, this is simple. Perhaps you just play a scientist on TV.


846 posted on 11/28/2009 3:51:17 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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