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To: Buck W.; metmom; Tennessee Nana
Citing limitations in the calculation abilities of the time is not a cover for the obvious incorrect number presented in Kings. If it were meant to be inerrant, the passage would have presented the correct value despite the availability of a decimal place. Alternatively, the text could have said “about 3”.

Oh really, please provide better exegesis for that observation, you so far can only provide eisegesis . LOL, hebrew language has no words to describe decimal places, yet you insist that it do so, how utterly vacant is that logic. The fact that

http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm

can so easily understand what is being DESCRIBED here bucky boy, when you can't even tell me anything more detailed is really telling on your reasoning skills. You can't even look up allegory in application to the passage and see you are wrong. The passage here is not wrong - the math and logical application of the DESCRIBED item actually do come to approximately 3.14 - prove the math people wrong at purple.

The word "brim" KJV used here is sephethwhich carries the idea of 'termination', basically from edge to edge. (score on for the purple team) It also states in vs 26 that it was one 'hand' thick. Using their basic assumptions of distances for cubits and hands, one discovers that the inner circumference is 30 cubits. Wow, do the math they do and they come up with 3.1395348837..., or about 3.14. Given the assumptions of the actual lengths of a cubit or hand, this is pretty well spot on for that age and technology.

But the bible wasn't trying to establish the value for pi in the context of the passage, it is describing in general terms the basin and clearly the math supports that the dimensions are correct for the math involved. Sorry bucky boy, spewing common skeptic garbage that is disproved by a non-Christian site is rookie league stuff.

But, but, but you will cry the bible says "3", I still wait to see that number found in the passage, but if that passes for bible scholarship to you, eh. Watching you tie your self in knots has been enjoyable but your village has called and I have Christmas decorations to set up.

733 posted on 11/28/2009 11:03:53 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; Buck W.
KA-BOOM!

So that is what a 16 pounder looks like when it hits a bASS boat...

Buckie boy, Zilla is a real scientist and a Christian. So he is going to extract your drivel at a much fast rate than many of us.

Pace yourself please, I'd hate for you to run dry before I can get to a PC and off the smart phone...

771 posted on 11/28/2009 12:59:49 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Godzilla

With the tools available at the time, the measurement of an internal circumference would be a difficult task.

In any event, I accept the conclusion that further interpretation is necessary. That just means that the bible is not literally inerrant on its own.


810 posted on 11/28/2009 2:56:51 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Godzilla

You’re putting lipstick on a pig! Another poster here referred to you as a scientist—perhaps (s)he meant cosmetician.

No, you are still augmenting scripture with interpretation. I am not arguing with the fact that a circular circumference divided by the corresponding diameter equals pi. The bible, though, with no further information says that the circ over the diam equals 3.

One must interpret the scene to provide the data necessary to fix it. The scripture is not literally inerrant on its own.

Really, I’m a Christian and I understand this. Can’t you?


819 posted on 11/28/2009 3:04:10 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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