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Is Mormonism Christian? by Late Richard John Neuhaus
November 24, 2009

Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: Buck W.; reaganaut
“says” or “say”?

Give it a rest.....


521 posted on 11/27/2009 8:09:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“Not likely as much as you think considering that much of it is historical accounts in nature.”

Like the accounts that are explained by the vapor canopy, fountains of the deep, and hydroplaning continents? And vegetarian T-Rexes?

And I’m a Christian; just not the cult variety. Yours is a rather exclusive club, though.


522 posted on 11/27/2009 8:09:43 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom

No, I’d rather not. Being fastidious and persnickety amuses me when it vexes you.


523 posted on 11/27/2009 8:11:18 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

It’s exclusive in that the Bible says,...

John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

You want to argue with exclusive, you need to argue it with Jesus.

Tell me. Is that allegory or not?


524 posted on 11/27/2009 8:12:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Melian; Tennessee Nana

Yes, but several people started asking me questions because I said the Mormons I have known have been very good, kind, responsible people.

The Mormons I have encountered have been the same. But I never grew up in the Mormon faith and never knew any in more than a casual acquaintance type relationship.

So, yes, they can come across that way, with their family values and Mormon Tabernacle Choir and all, but I do trust the word of those who grew up as Mormon, and in the Mormon church.

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It is funny. The LDS I knew before I joined were nice, sweet, helpful, seemed very good, etc. Part of the reason I (and many others) was drawn to them .

Then AFTER I became LDS, these same people changed toward me, they became condecending, demanding, even cruel, and predatory. I am not talking a few people, I am talking about all of them.

The whole time I was counseled to “avoid the appearance of all evil”, because we had to put on “a good front” (exact words of my Bishop) for non members and those thinking of joining the LDS church.

Then after I left, they all dropped me like a hot potato, even to the point of starting lies about me in the neighborhood.

Beware, some of that “nicey niceness” is a front to get people interested in the LDS Church.


525 posted on 11/27/2009 8:14:58 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: metmom

No.

Does pi=3?


526 posted on 11/27/2009 8:15:00 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

More Christlike behavior on your part?

I think not.

How can you claim to be a follower if Christ when you admit to pride (haughtiness) and provoke others?

Do you see Jesus behaving in such a manner, quibbling over non-essential issues?

Your hypocrisy in claiming to be a Christian and not behaving like one is very educational to those who want to see what living the Christian life is really like. It’s a great example of how not to behave.


527 posted on 11/27/2009 8:16:45 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu; Tennessee Nana

Those in the state of being filthy rags are unclean and can not understand.

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Exactly, Resty. Now you are getting it. That is why you need to forsake your works based faith, hope of “eternal marriage” and godhood, and reliace on membership in the LDS church to get you to Heaven and repent and come to the REAL Jesus, the one of the Bible alone!

C’mon Resty, you can do it!


528 posted on 11/27/2009 8:19:29 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Buck W.

Pi = 3?

Been answered a bazillion times, but for those who might be influenced by your lies and misrepresentations about what Christians believe and what the Bible says,...

http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm

The Bible doesn’t teach that pi=3.


529 posted on 11/27/2009 8:21:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Buck W.

My point exactly.


530 posted on 11/27/2009 8:22:34 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Buck W.

Try taking your own advice, troll.


531 posted on 11/27/2009 8:23:55 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: ansel12
People here even had discussions on Mitt Romney and other topics years before you signed up, or had ever heard of Sarah Palin.

*yawn* Of course you have no idea when I heard of Sarah Palin, but sometimes even smart guys like you run off at the keyboard.

Here's a question. Why are the pro-Palin people so afraid of Mitt Romney?

532 posted on 11/27/2009 8:24:07 PM PST by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway)
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To: metmom

Oh, I forgot that you have Jesus on speed dial. Chatting with you is like the Hare Christian version of consulting Ask The Imam for a random fatwa.

I believe that Jimmy Swaggart’s on channel 7—check him out and send him some money!


533 posted on 11/27/2009 8:24:31 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom

It does, and it represents a small but definitive proof that not every word of the bible is literally true.


534 posted on 11/27/2009 8:26:32 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Grunthor
That IS a pretty silly idea. Mitt is no threat to Sarah at all.

Congratulations. You are, as far as I can tell, the first person to figure that out.

535 posted on 11/27/2009 8:27:49 PM PST by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway)
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To: Buck W.
It does, and it represents a small but definitive proof that not every word of the bible is literally true.

Your point is?

536 posted on 11/27/2009 8:29:34 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Buck W.

You really ought to read the Bible for yourself instead of listening to evo talking points websites.

They lie about what creationists believe, you know.


537 posted on 11/27/2009 8:31:29 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu

Repent and come unto the Lord and ye will know!
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No thanks I dont want to be a follower and worshipper of the lord Joey Smith...

Joey Smith was a foul pedophile and adulterer...He seduced and forced himself several very young gullible girls by lying to them about angels with flaming swords who would kill him if the girl refused to have sex with him...or her family would not go to the mormon after life unless she had sex with him..Joey was one nasty piece of work..If he had to he would pretend to “marry” the girl, getting one of his friends to secretly perform the “ceremony” at night by the river..Note: none of these so called marriages were ever witnessed by Emma or the town...nor were they in the so called “temple” or church building...

he had at least 40 one night stands..and demanded sex from girls as young as 12...nasty dirty disease ridden sinner who needed to repent..

an occultist who dabbled in witchcraft...he used the same “seer stones” to con his neighbors and look for gold, and to so call translate the book of mormon..he got arresated several times for using those stones to cheat people...He was wearing his favorite Jupiter stone for good luck and protection when he got himself killed breaking out of jail..

a murderer...He had a gang of cutthroats he called Danites ...they murdered people in Ohio, Illinois and missouri, and stolen their cattle and property...He murderered at least 2 men when he tried to breeak out of jail...

a thief...Joey always had a scam goinmg...bank scams..his own printing press for those phony 3 dollar bills he laundered ampong the unsuspecting non-mormons in Missouri and other states..He wasnt passed stealing from his own followers...Someone DONATED land to the mormons but Joey made himself a cool million by SELLING the lots to his unknowing followers...Joey was in and out of jail for fraud and “glass looking”..

a drunk...he had his own hotel and bar where he sold booze...he and his cohorts had dances and parties and got drunk together ...they had visions fromm booze and magic mushrooms in their so called “church”..Emma threatened to leave him if he didnt get the bar out of her living room...He and his cohorts got drunk in jail before the break out attempt...

a charlatan .. Joey wrote a book to replace the Christian bible and fooled many people into following his home made sex club of a religion...anything Christian, he rejected...anything deviant, he added to his religion...

a boaster...Joey Smith boasted that he was greater than Jesus...God killed him for that...

A 2nd Mohammad” ...Joey boasted thaty her was a 2nd Mo and that he would do as Mo did and force people to convert to his evil religion at the point of a sword...

A dictator of a theocracy..Joey made himself mayor and declared martial law...He crowned himself king of the world and ran for president of the Unoited States in 1844...he intended to take ove the United states and declare a type of Sharia Law...

Wife beater... Joey Smith abused Emma...emotionally and psychologically ..He took young under age girls into his home and so called “adopted” them and then had sex with them...He committed adultery right in her own home and when she complained he threatened her with death...Today, he would have been in prison wjhere he belonged..

Incest...He so called adpopted the girls as his daughters and then had sex with them...thats called INCEST...

Racist...Blacks were called devils and excluded from mormon membership..

Sexist...Joey Smith and his cohorted treated women as cattle and just objects for their sexual perversions...Joey had one night stands with several married women..

Deviant sex practices...mormonism does not respect the sanctity of monogamous marriage...In fact monogamy is called “prostitution”...

“savior of the mormons”...Joey Smith set himself up as savior in place of the Christian Jesus...To get into the mormon after life, a mormon male has to have Joey’s permission...women need not apply...

the mormon god.. Joey decided that all gods were once men...even the mormon jesus...and he would become a god...mormons claim he is ..and that they can too...the males that is...

Anything evil and deviant is good and anything good is evil to the mormons...

Christians who dont believe that Joey Smith is the mortmon god AKA the “prophet” of the mormon god are called “anti christ”...thats why the Christians in these threads are accused of being “antis”...to the mormon mind its short for “anti christ”...

Joey Smith was foul and unrighteous ... the antithesis of the Jesus of the Bible..


538 posted on 11/27/2009 8:32:51 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: metmom

What? Recall that I frequent the creationist threads here. This is exactly what they believe.

How unChristian of you to fib.


539 posted on 11/27/2009 8:34:10 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: OpeEdMunkey

Rather than play the fool following that embarrassing post where you showed that you think that Romney and Palin surfaced at the same time here, why not look into the Romney threads from 2006 until Mccain won the nomination in 2008, that was when freerepublic was most active with Romney discussions.

As a conservative site, freerepublic is an official anti-Romney site as well.

So when did you first hear of Palin, I noticed that you did not answer that, you only gave one of those romneybot smart ass, cracks.


540 posted on 11/27/2009 8:38:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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