Is Mormonism Christian? by Late Richard John Neuhaus

November 24, 2009

[ejonesie22]

All the time, we get more complete answers from resty et.al.

(ouch)

[Enosh]

"Please—stop making Christians look stupid."

Please answer the question.

[reaganaut]

That explains SO much about him. I think you are on to something there, E.

[ejonesie22]

Well it started out as a little tongue and cheek, but...

[NoRedTape]

So very well said. Thank you.

And yes, I am familiar with that other mormon truth site that you mentioned.
The other mormon truth site that I linked to here, does not promote any religion.
I do not view them as "athiests", but ex-mormons in limbo; wanting and trying to shake loose the last remnants of the cult from which they came.
As you know, it is much more challenging (of course) to get OUT of mormonism than to get in.

Another gem that is online is the first (and last) publication of the Nauvoo Expositor. It is the newspaper that Joe Smith ordered to be destroyed.
Bummer for Joe, because the newspaper (many writers former mormons) printed the truth about Joe's daliances with other men's wives and
the truth on his many marriages and polygames. And bummer for Joe because he was arrested for the damage he caused to the Nauvoo Expositor's equipment
and to the building. It was Joe's downfall. As we all know, Joe was incarcerated in the Nauvoo jail, smuggled in guns and died whilst trying to escape.

Poor fake-prophet Joe; a money-driven scheister and vandal who still needs to be charged with smuggling guns into a State Jail.

Here's an excerpt beautifully written from the first (and unfortunately, the last) Nauvoo Expositor. HERE.

" We are earnestly seeking to explode the vicious principles of Joseph Smith, and those who practice the same abominations and whoredoms; which we verily know are not accordant and consonant with the principles of Jesus Christ and the Apostles; and for that purpose, and with that end in view, with an eye single to the glory of God, we have dared to gird on the armor, and with god at our head, we most solemnly and sincerely declare that the sword of truth shall not depart from the thigh, nor the buckler from the arm, until we can enjoy those glorious privileges which nature's God and our country's laws have guarantied to us--freedom of speech, the liberty of the press, and the right to worship God as seemeth us good................................."

[Godzilla]

And you base your assertion that I am not on my position that there is allegory in the bible?

Remarkable that you are unable to answer the simple question posed to you.

And you base your claim to being called a Christian on what again?

Besides retreating on your earlier claim that the bible is all allegorical to boot. How do you claim to know a real Jesus when everything in the bible in your view is nothing but symbolism?

[reaganaut]

But the Lord of Lords Jesus Christ commands that we be obsessed with Him..

And the Lord your God is to be loved with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. Deuteronomy 6:5

And Jesus answering said, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; Luke 10:27

That, Resty, is obsession...

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Amen.

[Tennessee Nana]

Please, stop making Christians look stupid.
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Name 2 Christians in this thread that look stupid..

[Tennessee Nana]

Please, stop making Christians look stupid.
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Name 2 Christians in this thread that have cried to you for help in changing their stupid look...

[Tennessee Nana]

Please, stop making Christians look stupid.
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Name 2 stupid looking Christians in this thread that have made you their spokeswoman...

[reaganaut]

Yep “praise to the man” is real. And still sung in LDS churches on Sunday.

Scary, huh?

[reaganaut]

PRAISE TO THE MAN

1844 version

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That is how I learned it, have they changed it since the 1990’s?

[reaganaut]

Hey Resty, do you see anything wrong with this?

PRAISE TO THE MAN

1844 version

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus:
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem’ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assassins,
Stain Illinois while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know “Brother Joseph” again.

Chorus

Retrieved from “http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Praise_to_the_Man";

[Godzilla]

Oh my LOL.

[reaganaut]

So resty, what you are saying is that a living prophet is worthless.

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So are the dead ones.

And BY taught that Adam/God and others were doctrine and his sermons were scripture, “ponderings”.

[count-your-change]

Jesus could be called an expert on the Scriptures and their meaning so I'm with you here, Jesus the expert or BW the ridiculous? Not a choice. Not at all.

[Tennessee Nana]

And dont let’s forget that Top Ten Hit on the mormon Hit Parade...

“Hail to Brigham Young”

and this new CD about the prophets..

http://www.meridianmagazine.com/radio/071012.html

[Godzilla]

Please, just don’t play “We wish you a merry smithmas”

[reaganaut]

Hadn’t heard about the JS nativity scene. Wow.

I did see, a few years ago, a missionary farewell card with a pic of JS on it that said “Praise to the Man”. On the inside it said “go forth and preach his Gospel”. Lower case ‘his’ = Joseph Smith’s gospel.

[Tennessee Nana]

Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
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No forgiveness eh ???

The whole world was responsible for the death of that habitual criminal jail bird, Joey Smith ???

Well cults are like that...

While the death of Jesus is not laid at the feet of the world but God forgives and saves whomever will...

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:16, 17