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I’m going to get married next year, I’d like as little state involvement as possible. God, this might well be the only issue that I am stubbornly libertarian on. I have nailed down that there is no law against a traditional or “non-givernment sponsored wedding” but try finding a clergyman or woman that will perform the ceremony w/o the states permission to wed.....it isn’t easy.

My own Pastor is not comfortable with the idea of just performing the ceremony without the state giving it’s permission....I asked him if he’d require permission to perform communion and he just kind of chuckled.

Just a gentle reminder, FRiend ... "givernment" is cute the first time. But only the first time.

The problem with your "no government" hopes, is that there are all manner of legal issues involved in a marriage, the first of which is that you're combining ownership -- or not -- of your assets. Your tax status changes. If you have kids, their existence has legal ramifications (birth certificate, for example).

You can't just pretend that the community has no interest in your mating practices. What you do, affects those around you.

I’m going to get married next year, I’d like as little state involvement as possible. God, this might well be the only issue that I am stubbornly libertarian on. I have nailed down that there is no law against a traditional or “non-givernment sponsored wedding” but try finding a clergyman or woman that will perform the ceremony w/o the states permission to wed.....it isn’t easy.

My own Pastor is not comfortable with the idea of just performing the ceremony without the state giving it’s permission....I asked him if he’d require permission to perform communion and he just kind of chuckled.

Guess I should have read the whole thread before posting my last comment. Sounds like this is a personal issue for you. I originally responded to the whole article. The person in question, Sunstein, has written a book that is all about manipulaing society/business by funneling choices to get the desired outcome by the questioner. You have decided to use this article/thread to reflect on your angst about gov't sanctioned marriages.

Heads up: if you're not ready for a gov't sanctioned marriage, don't do it.

Dude - a church wedding on top of being gov't sanctioned is a more complete committment. Sounds like the committment is your real issue.