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To: rxsid


Judicial Notice: Craig v. U.S.

U.S. Native Born have no RIGHT to be named a Natural-born Citizen

Obama pundits argue that all “native born” citizens have the right to be President and that we shouldn’t discriminate based on parental heritage as that would deprive civil rights.

The problem with their analysis is that there is no “right” to be president. The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals agrees.

And that’s what I’ve been saying all along. POTUS eligibility being limited to natural born citizens is not a an issue of civil rights, it’s an issue of national security.

The Obama eligibility pundits demand that all citizens born on US soil – despite whether they be born of alien parentage – have a Constitutional right to be President in that it would be a deprivation of their civil rights if natural born citizen status is not granted to them.

This is the mantra of those who support that Obama is a natural born citizen even though Obama admits he was a British citizen at birth via his father who was never a US citizen.

But the status of “natural born citizen” is not a right owed to native born US citizens. In fact, it’s not a right owed to any US citizen because nbc status is simply not in any way, shape or form a “right” at all.
38 posted on 10/20/2009 5:12:32 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Ditto!


40 posted on 10/20/2009 5:22:26 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SvenMagnussen
John at OCT makes a good point:

I think Gary Kreep’s argument was much stronger than Orly’s. Obama can not be impeached for his ineligibility because being ineligible in not a crime.

Yes, Obama can be impeached on fraud and other crimes based on his eligibility, but he can’t be impeached solely on his ineligibility.

However, Obama can still be removed. Provisions in the Constitution state the POTUS can removed if he dies or resigns. However, when the POTUS dies or resigns, he is not impeached.

Further, the POTUS can be removed if the POTUS has a condition that renders him with the inability to discharge his duties. Being ineligible would fall under this. While the courts can’t remove the POTUS from office, I submit that the courts certainly have the power to determine if Obama is ineligible or not since this ties directly to a consitutional provision.

With a judgement that Obama is ineligible, Congress would compelled to act and they treated Obama as if he had died, resigned, or had a stroke. No impeachment would be necessary and Biden would become the POTUS.

41 posted on 10/20/2009 5:35:46 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: SvenMagnussen
And that’s what I’ve been saying all along. POTUS eligibility being limited to natural born citizens is not a an issue of civil rights, it’s an issue of national security.

Precisely! Thank you!

44 posted on 10/20/2009 6:24:02 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: SvenMagnussen
U.S. Native Born have no RIGHT to be named a Natural-born Citizen Obama pundits argue that all “native born” citizens have the right to be President and that we shouldn’t discriminate based on parental heritage as that would deprive civil rights.

The problem with their analysis is that there is no “right” to be president. The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals agrees.

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In the 2012 presidential primaries , will Democratic Parties in each state demand that candidates provide long form birth certificates along with their applications before they are allowed to put their names on the ballots?

Will Secretary of States in each state demand that 2012 presidential candidates attach a long form birth certificate to their applications before they will be allowed to put their names on the primary ballot?

45 posted on 10/20/2009 6:58:41 PM PDT by john mirse
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