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To: Kolokotronis
"What makes you think that you as an individual, or any group of individual citizens, including sitting members of Congress, can, at this point, enforce the 20th amendment by some sort of court action? That’s absolute nonsense"

I certainly can demand to see proof that the twentieth amendment has been complied with. If it hasn't been, we don't have a legal President and if the courts say we have no standing to certify that the Constitution has been ENFORCED, there is no longer "law" worth respecting in this country. Put up or shut up.

I proved to you that we do have a law REQUIRING that the President elect has the burden of proving his/her qualifications to Congress. Its written plain as day in the Constitution itself. You, who claims to be "a simple old country lawyer" stated that it did not exist. Now you change your argument to "it ain't gonna fly" because it's over and done, etc. etc. Keep digging.

72 posted on 10/10/2009 9:43:26 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

“I certainly can demand to see proof that the twentieth amendment has been complied with.”

Says who? And when you are escorted from your congressman’s office, what will you do about it? Go to court? :)

“You, who claims to be “a simple old country lawyer” stated that it did not exist.”

Concentrate and try to understand. I did not say the 20th amendment doesn’t exist. I said you have no right to enforce it. Congress determined that Obama “qualified”. Its over. They have already “enforced” it.

“I proved to you that we do have a law REQUIRING that the President elect has the burden of proving his/her qualifications to Congress.”

Sigh; he did that and Congress ratified the vote of the Electoral College. In court the characters bringing the birther cases have the burden. That’s the way the Founders wanted it, Uncle Sham. Now, if the fringe wants a French system of law here whereby any accusation can be made and the same stands proven until unproven...OK. I’ve always suspected that fringes in this country really wanted a Napoleonic Code system rather than the Anglo Saxon Common Law system bequeathed to us by the Founders.

As I sad, please bring your action. You will lose. Bring it again and you will be sanctioned; a thrid time and you’ll likely be sanctioned more severely and barred from bringing any suits without further leave of court. But its up to you.


74 posted on 10/10/2009 10:03:11 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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