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1 posted on 10/02/2009 10:44:59 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

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2 posted on 10/02/2009 10:46:04 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Constitution Day

Interesting ping.


3 posted on 10/02/2009 10:46:48 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: decimon

Could be plausible as asprin was touted as an “Everything Medicine” back then and we didn’t have any really good cold/flu drugs in 1918.


4 posted on 10/02/2009 10:47:12 AM PDT by GraceG
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6 posted on 10/02/2009 10:56:00 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: decimon

The US was largely rural during this time. There weren’t a lot of doctors or hospitals or aspirin, period. I doubt aspirin had much to do with mortality.


7 posted on 10/02/2009 10:56:39 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: decimon; All

The last thing a person with hemorrhagic bleeding - such as was present with the 1918 "Spanish Flu" - should do is take a drug that acts as a blood thinner. Stay away from aspirin if H1N1 mutates into something like H5N1.


http://www.recombinomics.com/News/02180501/Similarities_H5N1_1918.html

Symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue, as cholera, as typhoid.

Wrote one observer, “One of the most striking of the complications was hemorrhage from mucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred.” A German investigator recorded “hemorrhages occurring in different parts of the interior of the eye” with great frequency. An American pathologist noted: “Fifty cases of soft subconjunctival hemorrhage were counted. Twelve had true hemotosis, bright red blood with no admixture of mucus. Three cases had hemorrhage”.

The New York City Health Department's chief pathologist said “Cases with pain look and act like cases of dengue...hemorrhage from nose or bronchi... paresis or paralysis of either cerebral or spinal origin... impairment of motion may be severe or mild, permanent or temporary... physical and mental depression. Intense and protracted prostration led to hysteria, melancholia, and insanity with suicidal intent.”


9 posted on 10/02/2009 11:02:51 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: decimon

My father, who started medical practice in 1935, always said that until antibiotics came out in the early 1950s about the only effective drug available was aspirin.


12 posted on 10/02/2009 11:14:58 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: decimon; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...

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17 posted on 10/02/2009 3:53:51 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: decimon
High aspirin dosing levels used to treat patients during the 1918-1919 pandemic are now known to cause, in some cases, toxicity and a dangerous build up of fluid in the lungs...

Does it work that way with everyday type flu?

22 posted on 10/03/2009 5:27:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSM BIAS: the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell)
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To: decimon

Anything is possible, it seems.

aspirin use and pulmonary edema:

http://www.japi.org/april2007/Corr2.pdf


25 posted on 10/03/2009 7:35:09 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: decimon

It’s not just a question of hemorrhaging being worsened by blood-thinning aspirin.

The other issue with aspirin is that it lowers fever. In the early stages of viral infection the virus replicates extremely rapidly (in geometric fashion). The main way the body fights against the replication of the virus initially is by increasing body temperature, so that viral replication is shut down, and so that Natural Killer cells and other immune system components travel faster in the bloodstream to attack the virus.

Taking something for the fever during the early stages of a viral infection only gives the virus more chance to get a stronger foothold, and when the body has manufactured enough antibodies to kill the virus it could already be overwhelmed.

Plus, the more of the virus that is killed by antibodies, the more waste products tend to build up in mucus membranes, including in the lungs. This is what causes the “Cytokine Storm” that makes people susceptible to secondary lung infections. Secondary infections are what kills people with flu infections, not the original virus.


27 posted on 10/04/2009 4:28:23 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: neverdem

ping


30 posted on 10/04/2009 6:30:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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