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Man, 90, allegedly kills wife to end suffering
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Posted on 09/21/2009 2:50:37 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: 1955Ford
Agree with you 100% and thats why many people that go to the hospital sign a “no code” or “do not resuscitate” forms. My father signed such a form...You have to think about it before you are in the position of having it forced upon you. The government should have no say in it...it is a family decision..some people just cannot let go...
41 posted on 09/21/2009 6:31:38 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Retired Greyhound
Perhaps both of theirs, maybe they wanted to go together and at the age of 90 its their decision....Not someone who doesn't know them...including you..

Don't give me that old "maybe she didn't want to die" spin, I am sure anyone married that long had talked about it many times and I wouldn't second guess them..

42 posted on 09/21/2009 6:34:19 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Arthur McGowan
When the State legalizes suicide and euthanasia in order to relieve “suffering,” the State is endorsing the religious dogma that people who kill themselves don’t go to Hell. This is an impermissible State endorsement of a religious dogma.

The "state" doesn't legalize suicide any more than it legalizes free speech. But what can you tell a statist with his head up his butt.

43 posted on 09/21/2009 6:34:57 PM PDT by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Arthur McGowan
There are virtually no cases where pain can truly not be managed. But there is such irrational terror of “addiction” (and the government) that people are chronically under-medicated.******

Having worked on a cancer floor, you are wrong that any pain can be stopped...some build up such a immunity to the drugs the only way to stop the pain is to OD the patient...I have seen patients given such high doses of narcotics that it would kill you, but it just let them have some relief...the point can be reached where nothing can stop the pain.....

But I do agree with you that some doctor's under-medicate, cause if they gave what was needed, someone idiot would sure as hell sue them..

44 posted on 09/21/2009 6:40:56 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: dog breath

good post


45 posted on 09/21/2009 6:42:34 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: goat granny

Thank you for post 36


46 posted on 09/21/2009 6:44:50 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: RAO1125

Me too!


47 posted on 09/21/2009 6:49:34 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: JoeProBono
There is no situation so bad that the legal system can't make it worse.
48 posted on 09/21/2009 7:07:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: cdbull23

Sorry. I clicked on the wrong response. I meant it for RAO1125 (jokingly).


49 posted on 09/21/2009 7:51:00 PM PDT by Radl
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To: JoeProBono

Sad. RIP.


50 posted on 09/21/2009 8:27:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: goat granny

If a patient dies from the dosage that is required to manage pain, that’s not murder/euthanasia.


51 posted on 09/21/2009 9:14:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward KennedyÂ’s America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
I am aware of that, but that does not stop law suits. Some doctors will give what is necessary, some won't....Only heard one stupid doctor say he didn't want to get the patient "hooked" on drugs....there are nit wits everyplace even in the medical profession....

An OD is still and OD. Most doctors will do what is right for the patient......

52 posted on 09/21/2009 9:25:17 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Arthur McGowan
If a patient dies from the dosage that is required to manage pain, that’s not murder/euthanasia.

Great statement, that brings back many memories of philosophy classes.

53 posted on 09/21/2009 9:28:34 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: 1955Ford

You all could not arrange morphine for her in her final days?


54 posted on 09/21/2009 9:33:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Popman

Surely, he did not have the supported and help he needed in taking care of her and himself. I have volunteered for many elderly people in my community who have no family interested in whether they suffer, live or die. It is quite terrible for them.


55 posted on 09/21/2009 9:35:55 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Maybe it would be better for her to have the means to kill herself and not involve “health care” workers in the killing business.


56 posted on 09/21/2009 9:37:54 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: politicalmerc

I pray you mom does not suffer, too. I pray that God gives you and her the strength to make it through all this. Sorry you guys are suffering with such a painful disease.


57 posted on 09/21/2009 9:41:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: goat granny

Granny, your kids are not going to let you lay in your own feces!


58 posted on 09/21/2009 9:43:55 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: RAO1125

“I’d rather die young than have to “live” to the day when all I have to look forward to is having my bedpan changed.”

When my dad’s legs gave out and he couldn’t fend for himself he refused to eat or drink until he died.

The other thing was that Clinton had just been elected and he said he would never live long enough to see the bastard out of office.

He was 92 and no one in the family tried to stop him.

It was his decision and entitled to it.


59 posted on 09/21/2009 9:44:00 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: goat granny

I have had quite a few relative die of cancer. From our experience the pain medication does speed death and that is not the same as euthanasia, in my opinion. I can not imagine any doctor permitting his patient to suffer w/o appropriate pain relief. But when things got bad, we guarded our family members to make sure the pain meds were not delayed causing unnecessary suffering.


60 posted on 09/21/2009 9:51:35 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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