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To: csvset

Russell said that by telling Jaison such an important secret, he was hoping that Jaison would trust him.

It seems just a lit-tle suspicious that the biggest villain of the season finds the immunity idol, without any clues. He’ll be more protected now, and likely to bring in the ratings for SeeBS for a longer amount of time. Makes you wonder...

I’m not saying the producers told him where to find the idol, but I do think it’s possible that they encouraged him, and only him, to actually start looking for an idol.

My hostility towards Mike was based on the fact that he said he “couldn’t stand Republicans” in his bio. He’s obviously not the only liberal on the show, but he’s the only one who went so far as to make that kind of comment. I hope he makes a full recovery and I also hope that he’s had some time to think and has become a little less hostile to people with non-Obama-worshipping political views.

As for the Betsy vote, I don’t think she rubbed people the wrong way, I just think her tribemates thought she was the weakest player and would be a liability at challenges. Well, some of them, anyway. From what we saw some of them seemed willing to vote out Ben, but none had the courage to go through with it. I hate these unanimous votes (unless there’s a really good reason for it). These Foa Foas aren’t thinking independently. They’re letting Russell H. and Ben lead them by the nose.


89 posted on 09/25/2009 4:48:16 AM PDT by JillValentine (If I am defensive it is only because I am under attack.)
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To: JillValentine

“......It seems just a lit-tle suspicious that the biggest villain of the season finds the immunity idol, without any clues. ...........”

I don’t know about that. Once again we are at the mercy of the editors. We don’t know how much time he spent looking for it. There was a couple of shots of him looking around the tree mail site and then in the woods.

When he spotted the hole and stuck his head in someone asked him what he was doing and he told the truth - “Looking for the HII.”

The big question is it “anybody’s” idol or just the other teams. We didn’t see what was written and Yasmin sure has the clue to where it “was”.

She didn’t seem to want to put any thought into where it might be.


92 posted on 09/25/2009 5:00:10 AM PDT by PeteB570 ("Da hood ain't da wood.")
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To: JillValentine

I wanted Betsy to win. I would have kept her around much longer than the 20-something girls. Police officers have to have some physical conditioning to do their job, but those youngsters are starting out all skin and bones to begin with. I just dislike the bias toward the young rather than the wisdom and experience of the older players. In this case, the young people on that tribe haven’t a clue that they are being played by Russ.


93 posted on 09/25/2009 5:12:32 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: JillValentine
It seems just a lit-tle suspicious that the biggest villain of the season finds the immunity idol, without any clues...

I think it was a set up that the snorkel given to the group had a detachable mouthpiece. The producers had to look high and low to find such a poor quality setup. I've had my OW certification since 1971, now my family has 5 divers and you couldn't buy that cheap "J" type anywhere I can think of. Consider the liability issues alone on water product that fails that easily. Survivor producers gave it to them hoping and praying that the lost piece would cause somebody major grief. At least IMHO.

Now that I think about it, they probably muck up everything they give just to add to the game "fun". Remember the lost spear tip?

99 posted on 09/25/2009 8:28:15 AM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: JillValentine
It's pretty rare for a contestant to actually study Survivor before going on the show, and I think that's exactly what he did. For many seasons, they've hidden the idol either in camp, or nearby the treemail, well, that's a pretty natural conclusion. But he didn't just search in camp, they showed shots of him searching the cistern that the camp draws water from, and I'm sure he searched the treemail area first.

Just remember, he found the idol on day 5 or six, and while they showed him searching this episode, it's quite likely he started searching the moment they got to camp. After all, in Brazil, there was a second immunity idol hidden as well. The brazen searching of the tree in front of everyone could just have been frustration of hunting for days and days, and coming up empty handed.

But wow, getting the hidden immunity idol before the first clue is given out, that's playing the game kibbles to the walls, and I'm pretty amused by him. As for producers maybe encouraging him - game shows are extremely tightly regulated in the US, and all it would take would be one camera operator going to the tabloids, and he'd have money, and CBS would be paying out huge damages. Jeff's couple minute talk with survivors before the vote has long been known to sometimes be a multi-hour ordeal, and while his questions to us look like he's leading the tribe, it's editing choice to show us only the questions that matter to that episode.

That said, you say something stupid to Jeff, and he will be down your throat in an instant, again, confirmed by interviews by many survivors, and frequently, those idiot words appear on the show, mostly because someone's arrogant enough to believe that they're not going home, or dejected enough knowing that they're going home to fire some last minute shots at the others.

106 posted on 09/25/2009 3:56:30 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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