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To: SatinDoll
NO! A natural born citizen is born in the nation where the parents are BOTH citizens.

You have nothing to support your claim. There is no law in the United States saying that. Whoever keeps singing that tune is out of his mind. Crazy. Insane. No law says that. Crazy people say that without any evidence -- not a single U.S. law states that.

140 posted on 08/26/2009 9:04:33 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Technical Editor

Sorry, no, go look up the term “natural born citizen” and its meaning, particularly at the time of this nations founding.

Natural Born is not simply Native Born.. and implying that the founders of this nation used the term Natural Born to mean Native Born is unbelievable ignorant.

These folks knew exactly what they were saying, they didn’t use a term with a very well understood and common meaning to stand for something else.


145 posted on 08/26/2009 9:12:12 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Technical Editor; Non-Sequitur; Kleon

Native born citizen, citizen by statute, and naturalized citizen ALL are citizenships determined by law BECAUSE they are not ‘natural’ citizenship.

A natural born citizen is the only form mentioned in the U.S.Constitution describing eligibility for the President. It doesn’t need a stinking statute. So I’ll say it again — a natural born citizen is born in the nation where the parents are BOTH citizens.

Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was in Hawaii on a student visa. He had no intention of ever becoming a U.S.citizen or permanent resident. His son, Barack Hussein obama II was registered by his father as a British subject.

The holding of Wong Kim Ark concerns persons, the parents, who were “permanently domiciled” here. Both parents were subjects of the Emperor of China and, according to a treaty with the U.S.A., forbidden from naturalizing as U.S. citizens. Obama Sr. was never permanently domociled in this country and never intended to naturalize as a U.S. citizen.

“As the court in Minor said, a natural born citizen (nbc) is unquestionably a citizen, before and after the adoption of the 14th amendment. An nbc needs no amendment, statute or confirmation at all - is is self evident that he is a citizen of the US and hence his citizenship is natural born. In Wong Kim Ark the Court indicated that the native born child of an alien is not natural born. Those who deny it still don’t know what the meaning of is ‘is’.” (Per Leo Donofrio)

Even if born in Hawaii, the POTUS is still a British subject because that, unlike Kenyan citizenship or Indonesian citizenship, doesn’t lapse at 18 or 21 years of age unless reaffirmed. (In the case of Indonesian citizenship, which does not allow dual citizenship, repudiation of the other nation’s citizenship must also occurr).

The only way to terminate being a British subject is to naturalize as a citizen to another nation. At most POTUS is a dual citizen with split allegiences. He is ‘native born’ if indeed he was born in the U.S.A. But he will never be a ‘natural born citizen’.

And calling other people crazy and insane can get you kicked off of Free Republic. Watch yourself!


151 posted on 08/26/2009 9:44:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Technical Editor

There is no law that defines what “is” is either but I think we all know what it means.


184 posted on 08/27/2009 5:31:25 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Technical Editor; SatinDoll
NO! A natural born citizen is born in the nation where the parents are BOTH citizens. You have nothing to support your claim. There is no law in the United States saying that. Whoever keeps singing that tune is out of his mind. Crazy. Insane. No law says that. Crazy people say that without any evidence -- not a single U.S. law states that.

So then the 98 U S Senators who signed Senate Resolution 511 were crazy and insane????

187 posted on 08/27/2009 5:44:09 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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