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To: Maelstorm

The Left has controlled the schools (at all levels) since at least the 1960’s. Almost everyone that goes into the military comes out of the public school system. I graduated high school in 1978, so I wasn’t nearly as indoctrinated as the kids today, although I saw signs of it in the 70’s, with the “stop pollution” and “save the whales” jazz.


22 posted on 08/10/2009 4:21:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah but it has gotten worse. I went to public school. I remember getting the little environmental tracks. They weren’t requiring us to sign gay pledge cards like in some public schools and having boys dressing as girls at the prom. The world operates just fine without such activism and there is no need for it.

I did go through a short period where I was somewhat a socialist. It sounded like a nice idea if everyone had the same basic house and the same basic things and then I realized that such a quaint idea would soon become a requirement that no one have anything but the basics and that didn’t sound like a very good place to live unless one thought of themselves as worthless with no hope for any better.

That said it appears to me that the military has had to undo a lot of the public school ego-gratification crap.


27 posted on 08/10/2009 4:36:56 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

but... but.... the whales.


136 posted on 08/31/2009 11:00:01 PM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is the reason why I say it is too late to save this country. There is only one thing left to live for: the extermination of all leftists.

I will be cruel to them simply for the sake of being cruel. Vengeance for the sake of vengeance.


402 posted on 08/28/2010 9:23:27 PM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kids often rebel against what people try to shove down their throats. At least the ones who can think for themselves do.


502 posted on 01/21/2012 9:35:08 AM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“The Left has controlled the schools (at all levels) since at least the 1960’s. Almost everyone that goes into the military comes out of the public school system. I graduated high school in 1978, so I wasn’t nearly as indoctrinated as the kids today, although I saw signs of it in the 70’s, with the “stop pollution” and “save the whales” jazz.”

I graduated in 1973, enlisted the same year. Retired in 1997, after 24 years on active duty in the USAF. At the end, I was (among other things)teaching “Law of Armed Combat” (LOAC) or what they used to call the Laws of War. We did a fair amount of time on the duty to disobey unlawful orders.

I'm still in touch with people on active duty, as my particular ward is the one for Tinker AFB, and I'm not seeing any evidence that the current force is all that sissified. Not just USAF, either, as we've got Navy folks here, too. Got a couple of cousins still in the Army, as well. Not hearing anything from them that would make me doubt them, either.

That said, I expect that you will find, in any military anywhere, folks who will go along with unlawful orders. I'd expect that to be much less than half, but possibly as many as a third, but that is just my opinion, and you know that they say about opinions...

Old Student
WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

537 posted on 08/19/2012 1:59:20 PM PDT by Old Student (Do NOT make me get out the torches and pitchforks...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember the all green ‘ecology’ flag in the late ‘60’s and the rainbow stickers in the early ‘70’s. Those were precursors to ‘Agenda 21’ and LGBT..


542 posted on 10/08/2012 5:06:52 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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