Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: pabianice
To be honest about it, he is talking about redunant testing because doctor #2 can't see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone. I don't know how often that is actually done, especially for big things like MRIs. Maybe a blood test will be redone because $20 to do it again is easier than pissing around for an hour to tranfer the results.
8 posted on 07/22/2009 5:36:31 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: KarlInOhio
redunant -> redundant
13 posted on 07/22/2009 5:37:25 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio
"To be honest about it, he is talking about redunant testing because doctor #2 can't see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone. "

Probably not very often since you usually need a referral from a physician to see a specialist, and in most cases, whatever tests he's done are forwarded to the doctor you're being referred to.

39 posted on 07/22/2009 5:43:13 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio

It’s also about doctors ordering more tests than are absolutely necessary to cover their butts against possible lawsuits. Again, tort reform would go a long way toward solving that problem.


52 posted on 07/22/2009 5:45:34 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio

“To be honest about it, he is talking about redunant testing because doctor #2 can’t see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone.”

If that was his specific point, then it’s disingenuous; surely most of the repeating of tests is done as defensive medicine. He’s stipulated a relatively minor class of actions, a class that no one would disagree has questionable justification, but implied that it would create huge cost savings when in all likelihood, it won’t.

So it’s a empty point.


63 posted on 07/22/2009 5:48:26 PM PDT by Houghton M.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio
health records are transferred between physicians, hospitals, clinics all of the time. The test results are mostly always available. 2nd tests are mostly done to verify the results of the first, or looking for any changes.

Just because Dr Obama,oh, he is not a physician?, made that statement, then you can see exactly where government run health care is going. You are going to die and it will be okay with the government. You will consume less resources and occupy less space. God help us all. I believe we are doomed

91 posted on 07/22/2009 5:57:56 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio

To be honest about it, he is talking about redunant testing because doctor #2 can’t see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone.

_______________________

And if a patient agrees to this, it’s the patient’s fault - not mine. Anyone with half a brain should ask to have the records and/or films sent over, faxed over, sent by computer, sent via overnight delivery OR the patient can pick them up him/herself and take the records into the doctor personally. If he is referring to Medicare problems, well, just who is in charge of THAT?

Think about how many lazy, apathetic Americans we have who believe everything should be handed to them on a silver platter. If someone else is picking up the tab, they aren’t going to care how many times they get tested. I, on the other hand, care - because I have to pay for some of it.


96 posted on 07/22/2009 6:01:50 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio
...doctor #2 can't see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone.

Why not? They're your tests; why can't you pick them up and take them to another doctor? Case in point: I had a shoulder xray done. My PCP recommended an orthopedic oncologist because of something the radiologist saw. I went to the clinic that did the xray, asked for and received a DVD with the pictures and the radiologist's report and transported them to the specialist. Simple.

104 posted on 07/22/2009 6:08:43 PM PDT by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio
To be honest about it, he is talking about redunant testing because doctor #2 can't see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone. I don't know how often that is actually done, especially for big things like MRIs. Maybe a blood test will be redone because $20 to do it again is easier than pissing around for an hour to tranfer the results.

I can say from first hand experience that it does happen, and is not as rare as some may think. I've seen people come into an ER, and because they don't know if they had an CT scan (try a confused elderly person), or even that they may have had the test but you can't get at the results, then the test is repeated.

107 posted on 07/22/2009 6:13:23 PM PDT by sometime lurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio

“To be honest about it, he is talking about redunant testing because doctor #2 can’t see the tests doctor #1 did so he orders it redone. I don’t know how often that is actually done, especially for big things like MRIs. “

It doesn’t happen..real insurance policies will not pay for the duplicate test. Mine won’t. Obamma was lying.

And another thing about limiting tests and pigeon holing everyone. Practicing medicine is an art not a science. They need the ability to ask for tests because they really have not a clue as to what is wrong with you with out them.


118 posted on 07/22/2009 6:33:39 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Everybody, looks good...at the starting line......."Paul Thorn")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

To: KarlInOhio

OK, here’s a scenario: Dr #1 orders a x-ray of my spine. I have scoliosis. Fine.

Dr # 2 orders another x-ray from a different angle. Discovers that my scoliosis comes from an unknown injury. Fine.

Dr # 3 orders a “special” x-ray at several weird angles. Discovers that I have scoliosis from a 30 foot fall that I took when I was a kid. I had crushed 5 vertebrae.

Which one of them made me “well”? None of them. But the last one used clues from the first two to bring me relief.

It took dozens of random tests from a dozen doctors to figure out my autoimmune peripheral neuropathy. The last doctor redid a test from a previous neurologist because (and I quote), “I don’t trust that he did it right. You have no idea how many times I redo the EMG and find out that the last doc botched it. I never rely on anyone but me. *I* read my x-rays, MRI’s and EMG’s. Nobody else.”

Oh, and the last doc wouldn’t have used the old MRI anyway because it was more than 6 months old and too much changes in that time.

Doctors are not stupid. If they need to see something from a slightly different angle, then they do. If they need to redo a test because they might see something that the last test missed, they do.

Running multiple tests isn’t always a waste.

And the government has no business making that determination.


137 posted on 07/22/2009 9:29:29 PM PDT by Marie (Alan Keyes for President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson