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To: BuckeyeTexan

Good analysis, Buckeye. I tend to be a skeptic, and believe if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Since our “president” has so much money, power and influence behind him, I just get the funny feeling that those who are questioning his legitimacy are being played by those people. It’s almost too good to be true that anyone in the MSM would begin to report on this.

Even with the Major Cook story. His revoked orders seemed a bit too convenient. They could have handled it differently, like lawsuits in the past, by having the judge just throw out the case for standing or some other such nonsense. But, they revoked his orders. They had to know that would be news, even for the MSM.

And, did anyone note the thread (Should Obama control the Internet), a desire for the government to punish those who write ‘falsehoods’ on the Internet, spreading rumors, etc? Is it possible that the ‘birther’ movement is being set up? Someone else mentioned that the reason Rush, Hannity and Levin aren’t talking about it is because they are being baited into it (to use as ammunition to silence talk radio), and they aren’t taking the bait.

What happens to everyone who has ever questioned Obama’s legitimacy if he finally reveals his true, long-form birth certificate (forged or not) showing he was born in Hawaii. Can he round all of us up and send us to the Gulags for spreading ‘falsehoods’? Has he had enough time to put the pieces in place to accomplish this?

Like I said...I’m a skeptic by nature, but we live in crazy times and anything is possible in the bizarro world.


93 posted on 07/20/2009 10:55:48 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl
And, did anyone note the thread (Should Obama control the Internet), a desire for the government to punish those who write ‘falsehoods’ on the Internet, spreading rumors, etc? Is it possible that the ‘birther’ movement is being set up? Someone else mentioned that the reason Rush, Hannity and Levin aren’t talking about it is because they are being baited into it (to use as ammunition to silence talk radio), and they aren’t taking the bait.

I tend to be a skeptic too. So much so that fellow birthers have raised questions about my sincerity on this issue. And then again, some have accused me of not being skeptical enough. So there you have it - no way to win.

I had not made that connection or even considered it. Thanks for raising the issue. That is very unsettling. Rush is starting to make snarky comments on the air about Obama's BC. I'll be interested to see if he takes it further.

98 posted on 07/20/2009 11:08:32 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: erkyl; BuckeyeTexan
I just get the funny feeling that those who are questioning his legitimacy are being played by those people.

Yeah... There is something about all this that makes me uneasy. It's almost too good to be true is it not? I mean, it would be the mother of all blunders on Obama's part if it were true. It almost feels like we're walking into something unpleasant.

But... like you erkyl, I'm a skeptic. I haven't owned a television in almost 20 years. I read mostly. I don't get stirred up by the latest thing on the idiot box. I have only heard Obama's voice on 2 occasions- both on Youtube. Plus I live in the UK nowadays and have not been in the US in a long time and am fairly distanced from the heat of things.

The thing that caught my eye initially on this was the COLB. As soon as I saw that I said to myself 'Well, that's not a birth certificate'. This was before I had read any further on the subject at all. Then I got to thinking about it. It just seems damned odd that a COLB would have been offered up in the first place. I mean, if you were trying to demonstrate something of that importance to answer all the 'right wing looneys' out there and any other doubters- why offer up a document that would plainly raise more questions?

It doesn't make any sense. We're either being set up or there really isn't a birth certificate. It wouldn't be a staff gaffe- 'Oh, when you said birth certificate sir, I thought this COLB thing was it so I posted that- my mistake'. If it was a staff gaffe, the White House could have corrected that right away by simply producing the real document since the assumption is: producing the COLB equates to a willingness to answer these questions. But if that willingness is truly there- the real document would have been produced by now. Unless we're being played or there is no document.

And this is the other thing that bothers me about this: why have no friends or relatives (who would have known where Obama was born- assuming he was born in Hawaii) stepped up to say 'well, yeah, he was born here! I saw him the day his mother brought him home from the hospital'. I mean where are these people? Have they been in the news already and I just missed it or what? Surely they would have stepped up. I mean even it's some sicko serial killer people always want to say 'yeah, I knew him when he was a kid'. Surely when it's the president we're talking about there'd be dozens of people who knew for a fact that Obama was born in Hawaii lining up to talk on the television or something?

Not that that would legally prove anything but the more people you have claiming to have seen him in the hospital as a new born infant, the less chances it's a conspiracy because it would be difficult to get that many people to agree to something like that. Where are these people?

129 posted on 07/20/2009 11:22:03 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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