[BuckeyeTexan]

These two documents are all you need to quickly get up to speed on this issue:

Obama Presidential Eligibility - An introductory primer

Polarik’s final Report on the COLB forgery

See the public bookmarks link on my FR homepage for links to each doc.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I respectfully disagree with most of my birther FRiends about Obama releasing his long-form BC to clear up the issue. Anything he releases cannot be trusted because he’s already committed document forgery once and will do it again because the stakes are higher this time. Anything he has a goverment official release cannot be trusted because we’ve seen his blackmail skills at work to get his way.

So the only acceptible resolution, in my humble opinion, is a) a ruling by the SCOTUS on the definition of a natural born citizen and b) independent, expert examination and guaranteed authenticity of any documents presented as proof of his place of birth. Nothing less will resolve the issue for me, short of seeing him prosecuted for felony document fraud and removed from office - I’d accept that too!

[Hetty_Fauxvert]

I also do not understand this issue and why it matters where O was born. My understanding (perhaps flawed) has always been that if you are born to a mother OR a father who is an American citizen, then you are also a US citizen, no matter where you were born. O’s mother was an American citizen. And wasn’t McCain born outside the US? Can someone set me straight if this is not the case, that you are automatically a citizen if born to another citizen of the US?

[Uncle Hal]

There is no question in my mind Obama has something to hide or he would have produced a real birth certificate. There is something in there, if disclosed, that would greatly embarrass Obama.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Ignore all the BS posts about trolls and such. We birthers are a diverse crowd. We have lots of opinions and can sometimes be cruel to each other because the issue is a sensitive one. If you’re really interested and want to learn the facts and evaluate them for yourself, you’ll have to get past the arguments we have amongst ourselves. When it comes right down to it, we all want the same thing ...

... for Barack H. Obama to be exposed as the fraud and liar he is and be swiftly removed from the office of president that he illegally occupies. (Can I get an AMEN?)

And then some of us want to see him go to prison. I’m in that group. Prison is where he belongs.

[x]

In a nutshell: Obama hasn't produced his long form birth certificate so we don't know for certain that he actually was born where he says he was (and he and his people have given different answers about which hospital he was born in), and Hawaiian authorities haven't actually said that they've seen documents saying Obama was born in Hawaii.

If you can get your hands on a lot of Hawaiian computer-generated birth certifications you can enter the argument over whether the computer-generated short form birth certification that's said to be Obama's is a fraud. But if you can't, it's pretty much pointless to get drawn into that mess.

[BP2]

For Obama's Aug. 4, 1961 birth in Honolulu, HA, to be accurate, the following improbable events needed to occur for his COLB to accurate:

1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s mom, at age 17, got pregnant by just-about the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands (the 1960 Census shows the population of blacks in Hawaii to be at 0.7 percent)

2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.

3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.

10 months AFTER her first day at the Univ of Hawaii, she gives birth to BHO II at EITHER the Queen's or Kapiolani Medical Center, and immediately LEAVES behind:
a) her parents in Honolulu
b) her new husband in Honolulu, and
c) her new home in Honolulu (her parents had just moved there, reportedly in June 1960) ...
... to fly ALONE with a 3-week-old newborn baby 2,800 miles to Seattle to start college at the Univ of Washington.

Then ... Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard, in Fall of 1962.

Even the Obots realize this is an implausible series of events is made even more suspicious in that -NEVER- does Obama Jr in his two books mention that his mom left Hawaii when she was married to BHO Sr, nor does he mention she was EVER in Washington State during their marriage until they were divorced in March 1964 ...

... occam's razor ...
... propensity of evidence ...
... reasonable doubt ...
... trust but verify...
... common sense ...

[ThirdLaw]

Synopsis: Eligibility to be President

All agreed:
- Obama can be President if born in the USA to two US citizen parents

Central Disputes:
- was Obama born in the USA?
- can a child born abroad be eligible if only 1 parent is a US citizen?
- can a child born in the USA be eligible if only 1 parent is a US citizen?

[Kevmo]

Start with the Certifigate keyword

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index