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To: MHGinTN
My reading of the commentary by Leahy in the Senate non-binding Resoultion regarding McCain’s plac eof birth leads me to think the democrats set a trap for McCain ahd he won: Leahy stated that ‘since McCain was born on an American base and both his parents were American citizens at the time of his birth’ ... this was factually incorrect based upon the evidnece they cited! McCain submitted the proof that he was born in Colon, Panama. Also, Barry Obama inserted a phrase which would appear to try to give him cover for not being born in the USofA! I can post the wording for you, if you haven’t seen it yet.

The Senate resolution is irrelevant. Observe, even if the Senate passed a bill (which they didn't, they passed only a "non-binding resolution"); and the bill passed the House and was signed by the President (none of which happened); you would be permitting the Congress to effectively amend a Constitutional provision (remove the requirement that the President be a "natural born" citizen) without complying with the amendment provision.

In fact, the Supreme Court has historically reacted adversely to these kinds of things.

Colon Panama, and the hospital located there where McCain was born was not an American base; and even had it been an American base, that is also not relevant--the Constitutional problem is that Panama and persons born in Panama are subject to the sovereignty of that country; the framer's of the US Constitution wanted to avoid having a Chief Executive who was subject to the sovereignty of some other head of state.

It was generally known by the Constitutional bar in DC that McCain wasn't going to win so it didn't make any difference that he was not eligible.

440 posted on 07/14/2009 11:53:58 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David
"... you would be permitting the Congress to effectively amend a Constitutional provision (remove the requirement that the President be a "natural born" citizen) without complying with the amendment provision."
Actually, no. The senate resolution sought to interpret the Constitution by defining natural born citizen, not amend it.

The interpretation of the Constitution is the function of a separate arm of the federal governemtal authority, the Supreme Court. The issue is one of separation of powers and designation of job title, so to speak.

447 posted on 07/14/2009 12:02:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: David
My personal opinion regarding what Barry Obama tried to insert into the resoultion is that he was seeking to establish a grounds for eventual challenge that he was born in Kenya because his mother couldn't fly back to Hawai'i to birth him, but she immediately--or had her mother immediately--applied for birth record as Hawaiian native.

Democrats are lying criminal thugs who will do anything to give themselves absolution. I think Barry was trying to establish grounds for justsuch an 'extra-legal' affirmative action approach to skirting the Constitutional requirements.

If the Keyes case gets to discovery, the Obama argument may be offered that he was born in Kenay but his mother was prevented from flying home to birth him and she immediately sought Hawaiian native status for him ... a process allowed by the then Hawaiian laws. Yes, specious, but what he is capable of trying regardless of how it rips the antion apart!

The issue of his natural born status I believe with all my heart rests upon the admitted statement that his father was a Kenayan and thus a British subject. Barry even signed onto the assertion that to be natural born BOTH parents need be American Citizens at birth, when he signed onto the McCain non-biniding resolution.

In the final analysis over this lying affirmative action batard, it is the democrat party manipulating laws and the people in order to acquire ultimate control over we the people--in the death of a Constitutional Republic replaced with a federal oligarchy--that needs to be explained to the American voters. We are in the midst of an attempted coup. The democrat party is the usurper, above and beyond Barry Soetoro who is merely their race-manipulating means to the usurpation ends.

459 posted on 07/14/2009 12:23:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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