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To: Kolokotronis

In your posts #223 and #232 you claim “in time of WAR”.

Could you please provide a link to the WAR that has been Congressionally declared pursuant to The Constitution, Article I, Section 8: “The Congress shall have the power to ... declare WAR.”

Thanks. I would like to know against what sovereign nation(s) we have declared WAR.

If you are unable to provide evidence or a link to a Congressionally declared WAR pursuant to the The Constitution, then are you merely grossly incompetent, or are you maliciously dishonest in your posts? I would think that a lawyer would know what WAR is and what The Constitution has to say about it.

I also find your use of the word Mutiny (post #223) at a minimum loose verbage and perhaps scurrilous. Do you have any evidence of this?


277 posted on 07/13/2009 2:09:04 AM PDT by xiangchi
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To: xiangchi

“If you are unable to provide evidence or a link to a Congressionally declared WAR pursuant to the The Constitution, then are you merely grossly incompetent, or are you maliciously dishonest in your posts?”

What sort of nonsense is this? Are you implying that our servicemen and women have been engaged in banditry and terrorism and our naval personnel in piracy since the Bush Administration sent our forces into Afganistan and Iraq? Are you asserting that the Viet Nam generation of veterans are in faqct criminal brigands?

As for mutiny, look up Article 94 of the UCMJ.


279 posted on 07/13/2009 3:11:57 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: xiangchi; Kolokotronis; xzins
If you are unable to provide evidence or a link to a Congressionally declared WAR pursuant to the The Constitution, then are you merely grossly incompetent, or are you maliciously dishonest in your posts?

My ass is being deployed by this. Sure walks, talks, and quacks like a declaration of war.

304 posted on 07/13/2009 3:40:46 PM PDT by jude24
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To: xiangchi; Kolokotronis; jude24
would think that a lawyer would know what WAR is and what The Constitution has to say about it.

The U.S. Constitution provides for military operations under both war and other contingencies. There is a clear recognition of reprisal and permission to seize assets.

The U.S. Congress has updated those other contingencies for our era in a War Powers Act of a number of years ago. That has never been challenged in court, and I doubt Scotus would see differently than Congress that it can engage in other military operations besides all-out war.

America, of course, wants that to be so. Some offenses require a response other than all-out war, and I want Congress to have the flexibility to pursue those.

For the record:

1. I wish WAR had been declared in this instance that we "call" the "War on Terrorism."

2. Congress authorized acts against anyone in any way connected to 9/11 on 9/18/2001. They all authorized a specific action against Iraq in 2002, I believe. (I'd have to check the date on that.) The first vote was unanimous less a few, iirc. The 2nd nearly the same.

3. I am neither a lawyer nor the son of a lawyer. (But I did read the U.S. Constitution for comprehension last night at a Holiday Inn Express.)

308 posted on 07/13/2009 6:25:40 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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